I agree! And I thought the conversation with Michelle and Zara was not great either. It definitely had the gossip but they came off as entitled and unapproachable. When I hear from so many of these podcast hosts, I am more often than not struggling to find someone that isn’t self involved and unable to take feedback well. It’s as though they find their “celebrity” and are unable to see themselves as regular people. There are a few exceptions to this but it definitely seems like a trend.lmao that's bloody weird. I think maybe Clare's podcast peaked early ... the episode about her and the one with Michelle and Zara were really interesting cos gossip ... but the flex mami one I couldn't finish. I don't really know Flex that well but found her narcissistic and boring.