Madeleine McCann Netflix documentary

[Coconutshy]

Ok, so my mind has been blown. I had always heard rumours about her "last" photo being photoshopped and faked but I could never understand exactly what this meant or what the significance was. I remember reading many years ago that Gerry came back to the uk with his camera and memory card whilst Kate was still out in Portugal, for some reason (can't remember it was years ago I read this). At the time I couldn't really understand what this would achieve but I have now found out that Gerry's brother in law was or is a photographer with experience in photoshop. Now, tonight I came across this video where an expert in Photoshop and photography breaks down in exact detail with evidence provided that shows 100% that the photo was manipulated. And, in the eyes on an expert, poorly so, especially whilst zoomed in. I will include the video, it is a bit long winded but it's vital evidence. Basically the expert concludes that the face and the body do not match up and she compares to a real photo taken days earlier that maddie looked younger in the newer photo than in the old one. And, that her face has been photoshopped onto her body. The backgrounds don't match up, hair photoshopped on, tennis balls etc. It is quite chilling that someone has gone to this effort to produce a fake photo, but why would they do this is my question? Are they trying to prove she was still alive at this time, when in fact she was already dead?

 

[Bubu]

Ok, so my mind has been blown. I had always heard rumours about her "last" photo being photoshopped and faked but I could never understand exactly what this meant or what the significance was. I remember reading many years ago that Gerry came back to the uk with his camera and memory card whilst Kate was still out in Portugal, for some reason (can't remember it was years ago I read this). At the time I couldn't really understand what this would achieve but I have now found out that Gerry's brother in law was or is a photographer with experience in photoshop. Now, tonight I came across this video where an expert in Photoshop and photography breaks down in exact detail with evidence provided that shows 100% that the photo was manipulated. And, in the eyes on an expert, poorly so, especially whilst zoomed in. I will include the video, it is a bit long winded but it's vital evidence. Basically the expert concludes that the face and the body do not match up and she compares to a real photo taken days earlier that maddie looked younger in the newer photo than in the old one. And, that her face has been photoshopped onto her body. The backgrounds don't match up, hair photoshopped on, tennis balls etc. It is quite chilling that someone has gone to this effort to produce a fake photo, but why would they do this is my question? Are they trying to prove she was still alive at this time, when in fact she was already dead?

I’ve just been watching Richard D hall’s YouTube videos about her timeline and he’s just been talking about this funnily enough! They couldn’t provide the police with madeleines DNA (probably because everything got washed and sterilised) so three weeks after her disappearance Gerry came back to get a pillow case to give to police with her DNA. I haven’t got to the end of his timeline yet but he proposes that she died on the second day of her holiday and the pictures seem to confirm this. They only had 5 pictures of her taken on the holiday. Didn’t it also take them 3 weeks to provide her final picture to the police where she’s sat by the pool too?

 

[Vee6]

I’ve just been watching Richard D hall’s YouTube videos about her timeline and he’s just been talking about this funnily enough! They couldn’t provide the police with madeleines DNA (probably because everything got washed and sterilised) so three weeks after her disappearance Gerry came back to get a pillow case to give to police with her DNA. I haven’t got to the end of his timeline yet but he proposes that she died on the second day of her holiday and the pictures seem to confirm this. They only had 5 pictures of her taken on the holiday. Didn’t it also take them 3 weeks to provide her final picture to the police where she’s sat by the pool too?

or because she was dead before she could use anything?
its all so horrible. Not having nightmares now, but this whole horrible story wont leave me. She needs justice. I find the selling her to paedos too much, and too short sighted. But David Payne seems to be a creepy guy from the report to social services and i wonder if the group are the nest of paedophiles with some dodgey connection to cover it all up when something went wrong and they couldnt let her body be found because of signs of abuse. Turns my stomach.

 

[Coconutshy]

Aaah yes! That's why he went back to the uk! I knew it was for another reason but couldn't think what. That makes perfect sense. So this was a perfect window of opportunity to sneak the camera back to the uk so the "expert" photoshopper brother in law could create some photos! This case just gets more and more disturbing. If you see that video and the one by the pool is taken on the 3rd of May. It's a bad copy and paste job when it's scrutinised by the expert - nothing about that tennis ball photo is real. That's why it took so long "to get" the final photo, it would have had to have been created! Now the more I look at it, the more I am wondering how I didn't see this sooner. Her face isn't even in proportion to her body. Also, she spent most of her time in the crèche so no wonder there is a lack of photos of her .Yep! You bet everything got washed and sterilised . Fishy, fishy fishy!

Edit ^** to do corrections with dates. I wonder if the pool photo is photoshopped too? Is there any word on that?

 

[Vee6]

watching the tennis ball photo vid - chilling!

 

[Twittwat]

watching the tennis ball photo vid - chilling!

I just watched it - omg

 

[Apple In My Pie]

I found the ‘last photo’ chilling but even worse for me was the ‘makeup photo’ where Maddie was claimed to have been ‘messing around with mummy’s makeup’ — cant link currently due to dodgy keyboard but it’s such a haunting photo - she’s not a happy child in it, that is not the face of a child caught ‘messing about with mummy’s makeup’ - she looks ill almost. Heartbreaking.

I also feel as if the time where Gerry returned to the U.K. was very dodgy/telling, especially with the tennis ball photo evidence. There have been rumours that Maddie passed only two or three days into the holiday — I can see why people come to this conclusion but I find it bizarre all the same. If I was her parents or one of the friends I would have honestly cracked up. No way could I spend a week ‘in holiday mode’ knowing that that little girl had died.

 

[Coconutshy]

I know the make up photo you are referring to and I remember it didn't sit right with me, even the first time I saw it. Her ears in the photo sit weirdly low? Like they are almost on her neck. Where did the photo originate from?

 

[Jelly Bean]

The whole thing is very strange. I didn't at first think the parents were involved but now I think they were. I think they (being doctors) gave her a sedative so they could have free time and it went horribly wrong. I have friends who were at that complex a few days after the incident and it was sort of just accepted by the locals that it was the parents. I know that in itself that means nothing but that was the general feeling. Plus their behaviour has been frankly odd. Did anyone read their book where Kate imagines the horror of someone violating their daughter's 'perfect genitals'?

 

[bubbletea123]

The whole thing is very strange. I didn't at first think the parents were involved but now I think they were. I think they (being doctors) gave her a sedative so they could have free time and it went horribly wrong. I have friends who were at that complex a few days after the incident and it was sort of just accepted by the locals that it was the parents. I know that in itself that means nothing but that was the general feeling. Plus their behaviour has been frankly odd. Did anyone read their book where Kate imagines the horror of someone violating their daughter's 'perfect genitals'?

Sorry but that genitals comment is a bleeping weird thing to say, regardless of Kate being Madeleine's mum.

 

[emmer_moans]

I have always been horrified they left their children. I had a daughter who would’ve been the same school year, the case was shocking. But I could not imagine ever going out for a meal and leaving an apartment. Utterly disgraceful. And disrespectful.
But there’s no way they could’ve left the kids for peadophiles, surely. That’s the sickest thing I ever heard. They could be killed or ripped apart. You couldn’t do it. No one could.
And all this calpol as a sedative, ok there used to be medised and there’s phenergan, but calpol is paracetamol and not a sedative

I do wonder if this was what happened how would they get away with it forever, surely once older the children would (potentially) speak up?

I feel sorry for the twins too, what ever theory happens to be true, their whole upbringing and whole future is framed with being associated by the whole sorry affair. I do wonder if they will estrange themselves once they are old enough, start new lives with new names.

 

[Web30]

Iv just looked up the makeup photo. If she was "playing in mummys makeup" it would have been all over her face not done neatly.

 

[Twittwat]

Iv just looked up the makeup photo. If she was "playing in mummys makeup" it would have been all over her face not done neatly.

When was the photo supposedly taken?

 

[Vee6]

i think i was getting a bit carried away with theories last night. Still dont trust them though

 

[Web30]

When was the photo supposedly taken?

Iv had a read and people think the same day as the pool photo.

 

[Twittwat]

Iv had a read and people think the same day as the pool photo.

She looks so different in all the holiday photos!

 

[Web30]

She looks so different in all the holiday photos!

Shes got the hair braid which she had on the pool pic. Its hard without seeing the full photo or really knowing the truth of that pic to say much

 

[Eleven11]

There is just no emotion on Kate's face/voice when she talks to the press. I honestly believe they are guilty.
There are so many things that don't make sense to me, like why did she wash the toy cat that would of smelt like Madeleine? And didn't they have to go round Amelie's bed to get Madeleline? Surely if someone took her they'd have taken the first child they came across?

100%
You only have to look at the facts which are largely hidden from the general public to realise what the truth is.
The book “the truth of the lie” is fascinating. There is an embedded confession from Gerry and the positive identification of a cadaver by the sniffer dog. These people are protected and have friends in very high places. I pray the truth will be exposed one day !

Going to start it now, before I do my opinion is that either kate or gerry are behind it and are both covering up her accidental death or murder. Will be interesting to see if the documentary changes my views that she may have actually been abducted etc. Guess it will depend on the documentary makers views as to how biased it is towards certain theories

They were drugging the children. She died in the apartment and there is another factor at play which I won’t go into which is a key part of this story and the cover up

The whole thing is very strange. I didn't at first think the parents were involved but now I think they were. I think they (being doctors) gave her a sedative so they could have free time and it went horribly wrong. I have friends who were at that complex a few days after the incident and it was sort of just accepted by the locals that it was the parents. I know that in itself that means nothing but that was the general feeling. Plus their behaviour has been frankly odd. Did anyone read their book where Kate imagines the horror of someone violating their daughter's 'perfect genitals'?

Yes like any normal mother would ever say that! Very disturbing “ her perfect genitals being torn apart” or something

 

[bubbletea123]

I do wonder if this was what happened how would they get away with it forever, surely once older the children would (potentially) speak up?

I feel sorry for the twins too, what ever theory happens to be true, their whole upbringing and whole future is framed with being associated by the whole sorry affair. I do wonder if they will estrange themselves once they are old enough, start new lives with new names.

I wonder that about the twins too. I wouldn't be surprised if they resent their parents once they are old enough to fully realise what happened. I bet that they live in Madeleine's shadow. I find it hard to believe that they have a normal life.

 

[Eleven11]

She was snatched by an organised paedophile ring. Portugal is notorious for it. Her parents were a couple of dopey doctors with no common sense but the academic smarts.

They’re not dopey and not strangers to pedos. Mates with a few of them including Clement Freud

^^ If you genuinely didn't know where your child was, surely you'd listen to that intuitive even if you'd normally dismiss people like that before your child went missing- you'd be desperate and hopeful to find out anything.
I know people behave differently but a lot of the McCann's behaviour just doesn't make sense.
If they're guilty I don't understand the cover-up, it's not as if they're major celebrities or royalty (not that this would make it ok but I hope you know what I mean). If they know for sure she's dead how dare they waste all these taxpayers' money, around £12M now? It's still going on with the Met police investigation - a now retired detective said he didn't agree with Londoners having to pay towards this investigation when it happened abroad and the family lived elsewhere in the UK.

Because there is another important layer to the story which is being covered up at all costs

I feel the parents have friends in high places and may have some personal/embarassing info about them too hence the extraordinary help they've had, where no other parents of missing children have ever had before or since. They've not even been charged with leaving their kids alone several times in an unlocked apartment, that is child neglect at the very least.

I don't think i'll watch this documentary after all if it is in favour of the parents.

Hit the nail on the head

I’m so confused about the former head of CEOP (child exploitation and online protection) -Jim Gamble. Something very shady about him. I’m on episode 5 atm but in a prior episode when he was talking about Gerry and advising him how to write a letter to madeleines abductors he was telling him it’s never to late to realise you’ve done a stupid thing (it was along those lines anyway). And he said he was saying this as he was trying to get that into Gerry’s head as he thought he may have been behind this as he felt something wasn’t right about him. But then on episode 5, around the 50 minute mark he says
the Portuguese police were “clutching at straws” when Kate and Gerry were made suspects. Why such a massive contradiction?

Did a bit of reading last night and there are theories that Gerry in 2002 was convicted of having child pornography, but all records of this got deleted and all was left was an empty CAT file where all the information on the offences should have been. Who do they think deleted the file? None other than Jim Gamble. Who better to lead a paedophile ring than the head of CEOP?!

Edited to add- I got to the end of that episode and Jim gamble is now of the opinion that the McCanns have nothing to do with it and he seems to be basing that opinion on seeing the twins loving relationship with Gerry McCann. Wtf?! That doesn’t make him innocent especially if madeleines death was accidental. And covering up her accidental death if they’d drugged her would make it an even more plausible theory of what happened if Gerry did have a CAT file for child pornography prior, as they would have lost custody of the twins and their jobs etc

I too read he had child sex offences against him which were whipped from the system. They had dinner with clement Freud in Portugal ( a known paedophile) and a member of the public reported overheating improper sexual remarks made about Maddie by their friends at dinner

My friend told me of an interesting theory she’d read today. Ever since I’ve not been able to stop thinking about it and believing it more and more. Don’t quote me on all the facts as it’s just speculation from bits I’ve heard. Gerry was suspected to be part of some paedophile ring? The theory goes that Kate and Gerry sold Maddie’s and possibly the twin’s services for the night. Whoever was supposed to be coming in to abuse the kids on that night (hence why they were drugged) did actually kidnap Maddie which wasn’t the plan. So that would explain Kate straight away jumping to “they’ve taken her”. Genuine shock that that wasn’t part of the deal but as it’s such a horrific crime that could thanks them both in a lot of trouble they can’t mention a thing. I know this theory doesn’t explain the cadaver dogs etc. Just thought it sounded somewhere believable.

Have read this too and it’s very convincing. See also the e-fits of the Podesta brothers who are known Pedos who were in the resort at the same time. They are protected because of the connections to the elites they have. It’s all very dark and very sad. She was an IVF baby and I think she was conceived to be abused

I have always been horrified they left their children. I had a daughter who would’ve been the same school year, the case was shocking. But I could not imagine ever going out for a meal and leaving an apartment. Utterly disgraceful. And disrespectful.
But there’s no way they could’ve left the kids for peadophiles, surely. That’s the sickest thing I ever heard. They could be killed or ripped apart. You couldn’t do it. No one could.
And all this calpol as a sedative, ok there used to be medised and there’s phenergan, but calpol is paracetamol and not a sedative

Whilst it’s shocking and repugnant to most people to comprehend it is actually the most plausible story and the one I truly believe.