Made in Chelsea #4

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Hi, long time lurker here , I'm sure I read here that liv and Fred were once a couple ? If so why did they split up ? They seem to me to be the pacifiers of the groups I'd say they were well suited ......please don't shoot me down LOL

He didn’t have any emotions. I think he allowed some girl to flirt with him. Liv tried to get a appropriate apology / reaction from him. He was like a brick wall. Very scary trait
 
Hi, long time lurker here , I'm sure I read here that liv and Fred were once a couple ? If so why did they split up ? They seem to me to be the pacifiers of the groups I'd say they were well suited ......please don't shoot me down LOL

Why would anyone shoot you down!

I’m p sure they were a couple for a few episodes (lol) on the show…? Like they’d been set up and then it turned out they were ~just better as friends~. The whole thing felt a bit staged as he then rapidly moved onto someone else and she was super duper happy for him…? If I remember this rightly?

Speaking of which how bleeping weird is Emma Olly Locke’s ex? Are they just desperate for anyone willing to be in the show these days? When they said an ex is coming back I’d prayed for Gabriella, not this bore!!
 
Episode 4 spoiler

That moment when Tiff says to Tristan you lied to Emily’s face about Harvey. Tristan responded to Tiff “you weren’t there duck off mate , duck off ”. He said it twice and looked away and waved his back hand at her. Wth why is he so aggressive to a woman? Tiff is not even problematic
 
Maeva is hilarious during her chat with miles 😂😂

Episode 4 spoiler

That moment when Tiff says to Tristan you lied to Emily’s face about Harvey. Tristan responded to Tiff “you weren’t there duck off mate , duck off ”. He said it twice and looked away and waved his back hand at her. Wth why is he so aggressive to a woman? Tiff is not even problematic

honestly how did Tristan manage to almost come across worse than Harvey in this episode, he’s awful
 
I’m so sorry this has all happened to you. I’m conscious of just pouncing on the “too old for children” thing - unless you’ve had that medically confirmed I wouldn’t be so quick to write it off as an option. Putting the rest behind the cut so you don’t have to read it if you have had it confirmed -

A lot of the “research” behind age and fertility is positively ancient with teeny, tiny sample sizes. It is possible to have a healthy pregnancy in your 40s or even 50s so please don’t feel as if this isn’t something you could pursue if you really wanted to. There’s a TTC thread on tattle and I know a few posters have IVF stories too if that was something you wanted in your future.

Really hope I haven’t offended in saying this, just I’ve been there feeling hopeless (albeit for other reasons) and going through that made me realise how little is truly known about women’s fertility tbh. Also there’s help available within the NHS, it is a bit of a postcode lottery but it may be worth discussing this with your GP also. Best of luck and sending lots of love and light x
Thank you, no I’m not offended, I appreciate it ❤️ Unfortunately a couple of years ago I found out I have endo, and I already had polycystic ovaries. The consultant when I had endo said with my age and those factors I would be unlikely to conceive naturally. I could try IVF if I had a partner and also the money x
 
Emily deserves so much better than Harvey, I would actually love to see her and Miles together. Harvey is the typical man child who wants the best of both worlds and doesn’t realise what he had until it’s gone. Glad he is the one crying next week. This show is honestly making me hate men they just get worse and worse and have no respect for the women.
 
Do yous think that maybe after a few episodes or even end of this season Harvey’s time will finish on MIC. He will disappear into history. Like most casts when not in a relationship.

I have a feeling Maeva is a Jada Smith kind of gal. When’s she’s 40th and married to a wealthy working man, she’s going to have a young Miles as a side piece. She seems to just come to life when chatting to him. He probably reminds her of her younger days.
 
Absolutely HOWLED when Emily said "and keeping girls warm with your pathetic arm" 😂😂😂

No words for the horrible behaviour of Harvey, Tristan and Rez. What three disgusting pieces of tit. I can't believe the audacity to lie about something so big, carry on lying when the truth is already out and then twist it all on the girls. It's scary...bleeping psychopaths.
 
Thank you, no I’m not offended, I appreciate it ❤ Unfortunately a couple of years ago I found out I have endo, and I already had polycystic ovaries. The consultant when I had endo said with my age and those factors I would be unlikely to conceive naturally. I could try IVF if I had a partner and also the money x

Heya, glad you’re not offended sorry I know everyone has *something* to say about fertility don’t they!

Re endo/PCOS, the same but different I had cancer and consultants said similar to me, they sort of shrug and say who bleeping knows, right? I guess they can’t confirm either way unless they bother to undertake the relevant scans (might be worth discussing with your GP if you can get a referral for those btw? Worst they can do is say no 🤷🏻‍♀️) so would rather lean towards the pessimistic option so you don’t have false hope…? But I managed to have my miracle baby very soon after being unwell, and IVF is available on the NHS - if you’ve got endo consultants definitely talk to them about it as I was going through my onc consultant to start discussions and then bam she thankfully came. I know it’s tit and honestly I’ve been there crying until my face is red raw from the salt content wishing the sofa would swallow me up, but it does get better. Life isn’t always what we thought it’d be but what’s meant for you will never pass you by.

Also there’s a book called motherhood a manifesto, the first few chapters are a bit much graphic wise but there’s some around the research that’s gone into fertility and even birthing methods and it’s all TRAAAASH! I wish I’d read it before being pregnant and birth, and arguably even that early maternity when your head is all over the place. I understand that a book called motherhood is probs tbe last thing on earth you want to read but those chapters are empowering and hope giving, I promise.

Best of luck my love - obvs none of us know what’s in your future but I wish I knew then what I know now if that makes sense? That medicine isn’t all black/white most of it is grey and no one ever really knows. These sweeping statements like oh age and xyz are very broad generalisations and you’ll always have people that buck the trend either way. Older motherhood is increasingly common now so hopefully medical professionals will get up to speed with this!! xxxx
 
Emily deserves so much better than Harvey, I would actually love to see her and Miles together. Harvey is the typical man child who wants the best of both worlds and doesn’t realise what he had until it’s gone. Glad he is the one crying next week. This show is honestly making me hate men they just get worse and worse and have no respect for the women.
I know, I genuinely felt down after watching that scene with Harvey and Emily!
 
Heya, glad you’re not offended sorry I know everyone has *something* to say about fertility don’t they!

Re endo/PCOS, the same but different I had cancer and consultants said similar to me, they sort of shrug and say who bleeping knows, right? I guess they can’t confirm either way unless they bother to undertake the relevant scans (might be worth discussing with your GP if you can get a referral for those btw? Worst they can do is say no 🤷🏻‍♀️) so would rather lean towards the pessimistic option so you don’t have false hope…? But I managed to have my miracle baby very soon after being unwell, and IVF is available on the NHS - if you’ve got endo consultants definitely talk to them about it as I was going through my onc consultant to start discussions and then bam she thankfully came. I know it’s tit and honestly I’ve been there crying until my face is red raw from the salt content wishing the sofa would swallow me up, but it does get better. Life isn’t always what we thought it’d be but what’s meant for you will never pass you by.

Also there’s a book called motherhood a manifesto, the first few chapters are a bit much graphic wise but there’s some around the research that’s gone into fertility and even birthing methods and it’s all TRAAAASH! I wish I’d read it before being pregnant and birth, and arguably even that early maternity when your head is all over the place. I understand that a book called motherhood is probs tbe last thing on earth you want to read but those chapters are empowering and hope giving, I promise.

Best of luck my love - obvs none of us know what’s in your future but I wish I knew then what I know now if that makes sense? That medicine isn’t all black/white most of it is grey and no one ever really knows. These sweeping statements like oh age and xyz are very broad generalisations and you’ll always have people that buck the trend either way. Older motherhood is increasingly common now so hopefully medical professionals will get up to speed with this!! xxxx
Thank you ❤️
I spoke to my doctor and she said there isn’t any help on the NHS for me as I’m single and over 40 ☹️
i know you can have tests to check your fertility and they don’t seem to be too expensive either privately, but I don’t know if I’d feel worse if the outcome confirmed it was a definite no. I might get the courage to just do it one day. My doctor thinks I may be peri menopausal too which won’t help matters x
 
Honestly that episode told any woman absolutely everything they ever need to know about what kind of men Harvey, Tristan and Reza really are. Harvey still not admitting what he'd obviously done while simultaneously claiming he was telling her before she heard from elsewhere or to be honest with her etc wtf. Tristan having the audacity to give Emily attitude about "being her friend too" while blatantly lying to her face as well as clearly making up some bullshit that Harvey had supposedly said, as if that was meant to make her feel any better. How Ruby accepted that Reza was basically saying she'd made that all up and then the way he spoke to her so dismissively. I didn't really feel for her bcus well, she's just as bad as him really but even so, gross mentality to have towards women and relationships from all of them. Awful friends to each other too, total enablers to each other and clearly full of shite. Sociopathic how easily they all lie too tbh. Plus Reza is truly terrible at lying too, he looks so visibly uncomfortable, so the fact he even tries to lie or twist the truth as often as he does is just pointless.
 
Episode 4 spoiler

That moment when Tiff says to Tristan you lied to Emily’s face about Harvey. Tristan responded to Tiff “you weren’t there duck off mate , duck off ”. He said it twice and looked away and waved his back hand at her. Wth why is he so aggressive to a woman? Tiff is not even problematic
This is what I thought as well. And it's not the first time he's behaved like this. I wouldn't be surprised if he was like this with Liv off camera and that's why none of her friends like him.
 
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Harvey is disgusting. I’m glad Emily has the strength to call him the duck out and leave him because some girls would’ve forgiven and stayed because they love him. I’m almost more disappointed in Tristan tbh; how dare he come out with that “I’m your friend too” bullshit then lie so convincingly to her face; going as far as to say “Harvey has not cheated on you”. WTF. So angry! If you want to protect your boy just keep your mouth shut. You would want to know if you were the one being cheated on?? Awful behaviour. And the way he spoke to Tiff as well…thought he was a gentleman?

I could see Ruby get visibly upset during the argument as it was dawning on her the tit she was going to be in with Rez when that was all done. What a mess.

Emily was fuminggg. The way she kept screaming as she stormed off. I swear you could just about hear her rip her mic off before they cut the sound out haha. I do feel for her. It’s been a long road of Harvey bleeping up tbh. I also feel like he still holds a bit of a flame for Haz. It was not necessary when he heard about her engagement to say that he has imagined that with her.
 
This series has been really good so far, it feels more real.
I really felt for Tiff and so pleased they included that in the show.
I really like Emily, and I can’t help but love Miles (I know 🙄😂), would love to see something happen there.
Harvey is such a wet wipe, he’s massively messed up here. But as someone else said, Tristan actually managed to come across worse - he was so rude to Tiff! He lied to Emily’s face, and the way he’s been with Digby’s new girlfriend… he’s not a nice guy, I didn’t really see it until this series.
The Maeva and Miles drink was so funny, I secretly hope they end up married one day.
Also love Digby, he’s just so lovely 🥰
Julius still giving everyone the ick…
 
I’m sure Ollie has said something and Tristan being a dick to liv behind closed doors. When he fell out with her cos he didn’t want her to get back with him. It’s annoying when they speak about things but don’t really say what it is properly and we have to guess. But I’m sure that’s what it was cos he said something about you can’t get back with him after the way he’s been

This series has been really good so far, it feels more real.
I really felt for Tiff and so pleased they included that in the show.
I really like Emily, and I can’t help but love Miles (I know 🙄😂), would love to see something happen there.
Harvey is such a wet wipe, he’s massively messed up here. But as someone else said, Tristan actually managed to come across worse - he was so rude to Tiff! He lied to Emily’s face, and the way he’s been with Digby’s new girlfriend… he’s not a nice guy, I didn’t really see it until this series.
The Maeva and Miles drink was so funny, I secretly hope they end up married one day.
Also love Digby, he’s just so lovely 🥰
Julius still giving everyone the ick…
I’m also a lover of Emily and miles. Used to think that when they lived together
 
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