Made in Chelsea #4

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Lonelylondon said:
I do actually agree with Sam Prince too that it should come naturally and if he doesn’t want to get married then he obviously shouldn’t do something he doesn’t want, Maeva did go overboard with the desperation but again I think it was for entertainment value, but equally, I don’t want to hear men moaning that their girlfriends want to get married, if you aren’t ready for it then stop dragging her along and break up with her. At the end of the day, the tradition is that the man proposes, but women shouldn’t have to just wait around for him to decide, it’s a big part of her life too and men always say that they’ll do it in their own time but what about the woman’s time and life plan? Again I’m not saying a man should propose if he doesn’t actually want to, but I don’t think women should have to just sit around and wait for something that may never come. Anyway I’m rambling now haha
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You're not rambling at all haha. You have good points.

I hate when men put women through 10 years of a relationship with the promise of a ring just to shut her up and buy him time for his inevitable exit. Just break up and be honest. I have seen it in real life and then the next relationship the guy jumps into they get married and it's like wtf?! It's like the epitome of "waste her time". That's what I see every time I look at Emily and Harvey. He just wants to waste her time. She is good for him in the sense that she is a roommate to split the bills/rent/do his laundry/pick up after him and a warm body, but he doesn't respect her and I have a hard time believing he has ever loved her. But he will punish her for wanting to invest in him and them. He is passive-aggressive, gives no energy, and no fucks. It is just insulting the way he acts like she is something to be tolerated. He can't even pretend to be remorseful about his bad behaviors and disrespect. I don't always care for Emily but I really hope they broke up for good because no one deserves to be treated like this.
 
strawberrysunshine_x said:
Does anyone else think it’s absolutely ridiculous that Gareth and Ollie have double barrelled their last names even tho they’re the same. It’s so stupid
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I do agree with you haha it’s ridiculous, although they probably took inspiration from the spanish speaking countries, I know someone from Paraguay who’s surname is the same word twice because both his parents had the same surname haha I was confused at first until I looked up how surnames work in Paraguay!
 
A year ago, I'd have said I thought Harvey was quite attractive and that Emily had been the one punching, but now I'd say the total opposite! It's become clear he's a total man-child, and he was really belittling towards her. And judging by next week's preview it seems he cheated on her too. She's much better off without him.
 
lilamay said:
A year ago, I'd have said I thought Harvey was quite attractive and that Emily had been the one punching, but now I'd say the total opposite! It's become clear he's a total man-child, and he was really belittling towards her. And judging by next week's preview it seems he cheated on her too. She's much better off without him.
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It's been on the cards all through last series! I don't think Harvey is that fussed about her tbh and I also think he is terrified of her. She's not as over dramatic as Maeva but she's definitely as venomous when she goes on the attack!
 
Bagpuss7 said:
It's been on the cards all through last series! I don't think Harvey is that fussed about her tbh and I also think he is terrified of her. She's not as over dramatic as Maeva but she's definitely as venomous when she goes on the attack!
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I like that about her tho. She isn’t a door mat and he needs telling sometimes. She knows what she wants and how to be treated so doesn’t let him get away with it. I can’t wait for episode 4. I’m defo watching it tomorrow 🤣 if he’s not man enough to tell her how he really feels ie doesn’t wanna get too serious then she’s done the right thing splitting up. Just hope they don’t do a liv andt Tristan
 
strawberrysunshine_x said:
I like that about her tho. She isn’t a door mat and he needs telling sometimes. She knows what she wants and how to be treated so doesn’t let him get away with it. I can’t wait for episode 4. I’m defo watching it tomorrow 🤣 if he’s not man enough to tell her how he really feels ie doesn’t wanna get too serious then she’s done the right thing splitting up. Just hope they don’t do a liv andt Tristan
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I don't dislike it about her but when they get into relationships with weak men, which both Harvey and James are, are they really surprised when they don't meet the standard possibly unrealistic standard that they have set for them ? Maeva is only with James because he's loaded imo, she's miserable and doesn't trust him and that's because she's projecting her own behaviour ( with Miles) onto him.
 
Omg guys I can’t believe MIC is back - I looooved this thread when I was on mat leave! Why didn’t ch4 let any of us know it was back?! Maybe they’re as lacklustre about it all as the cast??

Only watched the first two episodes and not caught up yet, but:
* all the girls have sorted their injectables out haven’t they? Good for you sweeties
* Sam Prince looks like 90s era Bruce Jenner? Is this new?
* the tiny man who wore v stiff double denim in last season’s promo looks different, why is this??
* Olly Locke has v dry lips and why is he wearing an aviators jacket AND thick knit inside a club? A club where Tristan (iirc?) is warm enough to go topless?

Excited to watch the series in real time with you guys 🎉🎉🎉
 
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How sad for Tiff and her fiance 😔

I hope Emily finds a nice guy soon. Harvey the man-child has treated her awfully, she deserves way better.

micfan said:
You're not rambling at all haha. You have good points.

I hate when men put women through 10 years of a relationship with the promise of a ring just to shut her up and buy him time for his inevitable exit. Just break up and be honest. I have seen it in real life and then the next relationship the guy jumps into they get married and it's like wtf?! It's like the epitome of "waste her time". That's what I see every time I look at Emily and Harvey. He just wants to waste her time. She is good for him in the sense that she is a roommate to split the bills/rent/do his laundry/pick up after him and a warm body, but he doesn't respect her and I have a hard time believing he has ever loved her. But he will punish her for wanting to invest in him and them. He is passive-aggressive, gives no energy, and no fucks. It is just insulting the way he acts like she is something to be tolerated. He can't even pretend to be remorseful about his bad behaviors and disrespect. I don't always care for Emily but I really hope they broke up for good because no one deserves to be treated like this.
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100% agree. I have a few friends and know of several women who effectively wasted their entire 20s in a long-term relationship (talking 8-10 years) for this to happen exactly as you've said.
 
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Tweedledumb said:
SPOILER (sorry don't know how to do the link to hide my post??)

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How sad for Tiff and her fiance 😔

I hope Emily finds a nice guy soon. Harvey the man-child has treated her awfully, she deserves way better.



100% agree. I have a few friends and know of several women who effectively wasted their entire 20s in a long-term relationship (talking 8-10 years) for this to happen exactly as you've said.
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I think this is where cultural differences are an advantage. Traditionally in Asian or African cultures, living with a boyfriend outside of a marriage isn’t promoted or acceptable. So less likely to have wasted building something for 10 years. You usually find out in 1/2 years if it will lead to marriage or not.
 
luckylady2022 said:
I think this is where cultural differences are an advantage. Traditionally in Asian or African cultures, living with a boyfriend outside of a marriage isn’t promoted or acceptable. So less likely to have wasted building something for 10 years. You usually find out in 1/2 years if it will lead to marriage or not.
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I would rather have the option of living with someone first and being certain that they would not drive me crazy / that I have chosen the right man.
 
Tweedledumb said:
SPOILER (sorry don't know how to do the link to hide my post??)

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How sad for Tiff and her fiance 😔

I hope Emily finds a nice guy soon. Harvey the man-child has treated her awfully, she deserves way better.



100% agree. I have a few friends and know of several women who effectively wasted their entire 20s in a long-term relationship (talking 8-10 years) for this to happen exactly as you've said.
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This happened to me, and the worst thing is he lied to me for 11 years about wanting children, putting it off telling me we needed a bigger house or a bigger car etc, he basically lied to me the whole relationship/marriage. A year after meeting him I said I was desperate to have a family (early 20’s) and that if he didn’t, I would understand and it was kinder to tell me then than lead me on. He assured me over and over there he wanted children. By the time I plucked up the courage to leave, I had no confidence, and felt so ugly. I don’t have the confidence to be with anyone else, and now I’m too old biologically for children. So basically he ruined my life. I am so angry with myself for going along with it. I was stupid. I’ve had counselling and everything, been suicidal. I’m alone and all I ever wanted was my own children. I know I could adopt, however as women you will appreciate it’s not the same as carrying a child yourself.
Anyway that’s a lot isn’t it, sorry x
 
Quarrantinemadness said:
This happened to me, and the worst thing is he lied to me for 11 years about wanting children, putting it off telling me we needed a bigger house or a bigger car etc, he basically lied to me the whole relationship/marriage. A year after meeting him I said I was desperate to have a family (early 20’s) and that if he didn’t, I would understand and it was kinder to tell me then than lead me on. He assured me over and over there he wanted children. By the time I plucked up the courage to leave, I had no confidence, and felt so ugly. I don’t have the confidence to be with anyone else, and now I’m too old biologically for children. So basically he ruined my life. I am so angry with myself for going along with it. I was stupid. I’ve had counselling and everything, been suicidal. I’m alone and all I ever wanted was my own children. I know I could adopt, however as women you will appreciate it’s not the same as carrying a child yourself.
Anyway that’s a lot isn’t it, sorry x
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My heart breaks for you and thanks for sharing. I hope you find a path to what you want, even if it’s not quite the path you thought you’d take x
 
Giftinghell said:
My heart breaks for you and thanks for sharing. I hope you find a path to what you want, even if it’s not quite the path you thought you’d take x
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Thank you lovely, it’s taken me a long time (years) to get to the stage I’m at now. For about 4 years I’d cry day and night about not having children. It’s still hard, but I cope better now than I did xx
 
Quarrantinemadness said:
This happened to me, and the worst thing is he lied to me for 11 years about wanting children, putting it off telling me we needed a bigger house or a bigger car etc, he basically lied to me the whole relationship/marriage. A year after meeting him I said I was desperate to have a family (early 20’s) and that if he didn’t, I would understand and it was kinder to tell me then than lead me on. He assured me over and over there he wanted children. By the time I plucked up the courage to leave, I had no confidence, and felt so ugly. I don’t have the confidence to be with anyone else, and now I’m too old biologically for children. So basically he ruined my life. I am so angry with myself for going along with it. I was stupid. I’ve had counselling and everything, been suicidal. I’m alone and all I ever wanted was my own children. I know I could adopt, however as women you will appreciate it’s not the same as carrying a child yourself.
Anyway that’s a lot isn’t it, sorry x
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I’m so sorry this has all happened to you. I’m conscious of just pouncing on the “too old for children” thing - unless you’ve had that medically confirmed I wouldn’t be so quick to write it off as an option. Putting the rest behind the cut so you don’t have to read it if you have had it confirmed -

A lot of the “research” behind age and fertility is positively ancient with teeny, tiny sample sizes. It is possible to have a healthy pregnancy in your 40s or even 50s so please don’t feel as if this isn’t something you could pursue if you really wanted to. There’s a TTC thread on tattle and I know a few posters have IVF stories too if that was something you wanted in your future.

Really hope I haven’t offended in saying this, just I’ve been there feeling hopeless (albeit for other reasons) and going through that made me realise how little is truly known about women’s fertility tbh. Also there’s help available within the NHS, it is a bit of a postcode lottery but it may be worth discussing this with your GP also. Best of luck and sending lots of love and light x
 
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