Made in Chelsea #10

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Imogen is completely unhinged but I love her inclusion in the programme. She’s an unfiltered fillered mess! (She reminds me of how Maeva was when she first joined and before she became a caricature cartoon angry, mad French/baby ignorer woman)

I actually think she looks like a blonde Emily with her chiselled wide head, and her migrated lips. I do think she is more Harvey’s type unlike Willow, but he was clearly using her and quite openly doing so but she got the feels - it happens I guess.
 
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I find it immature and embarrassing that Imogen went after Willow and accused her of not being a “girls girl” on the basis that she didn’t ask her if she was OK.

they were total strangers, Willow was put in an incredibly awkward situation, she didn’t know what had gone on. I’m not her biggest fan, but that doesn’t mean she’s not a “girls girl”.

Imogen clearly isn’t a girls girl herself, because attacking another woman for not having your “side” isn’t exactly female empowerment either, and let’s face it - she’s angry and bitter towards Willow and this is her way of rationalising her jealousy towards her over Harvey.

everything about Imogen was embarrassing. All that money spent on fake boobs, Botox, Tiffany necklaces and seemingly zero effort into actually developing a shred of self esteem or dignity for herself.

if a guy embarrasses you/stands you up like that, you call him a dick and move in with your life - not rant about him to his ex girlfriend you’ve just met over brunch
Oh I agree about her going after Willow, who I can't stand and think is a b!tch, but that's a whole other story for another day lol. Imogen's confrontation of her and Harvey did come across as a bit maniacal and highly embarrassing, but I also think Harvey could have handled the situation more sensitively, rather than being such a cold, obnoxious arseh0le. What annoys me about him is all that b0llocks he spouts about being a changed man, but he still clearly treats women like trash.

I also can't fathom why, once again, two women are arguing over Harvey. He's about as interesting and intellectually stimulating as a bowl of soggy cornflakes, and looks like he's Pritt-Sticked an old man's toupee on his head. All I can say is he must be great in the sack.
 
first ever tattle comment (yay lol) but i just had to say i cannot stand Willow! although she wasn’t technically in the wrong in the Harvey situation, she comes across as incredibly desperate and Imogen was right, she isn’t a girls girl.. isn’t Issy supposed to be one of her best friends and was seeing Harvey first? just a weird set up, it’s all so incestuous in Chelsea, couldn’t be me! loving the addition of Imogen though, we needed an injection of fresh drama and fighting lol
 
Harry has managed to fool a lot of people though. Many on here actually thought he was the one that came from money but it was all smoke and mirrors. Their clothing label “Ambiance Vibes” has also been set-up with Melissa’s dad as the real owner of the brand so her family probably came up with the money for it.
 
I’m watching the latest episode in drabs during coffee breaks ha (I had to skip the Freddy double date scene because it was just so awkward and cringe. My god).

I’ve got a bit of a controversial opinion… but the way Imogen has behaved towards Harvey is actually pretty bleeping disgusting, and I say this knowing full well that Harvey is a bit of a pig.

firstly, they had a casual thing going on. He was staying over, sleeping with her, cuddling her and buying her gifts. Neither of them made it official and Imogen has never contradicted the fact it was casual. She got feelings for Harvey, they’ve done relationshipy things so she has decided that she is owed a relationship, despite this never being something Harvey agreed to.

he has proceeded to end things with her, in person and via text (she hasn’t contradicted this either). But because she has decided she wants a relationship with him, she appears to have ignored this.

when she has discovered he’s seeing someone else, she then totally violates this new girls privacy by discussing her shopping for underwear and her sex life (to me, this has bullying vibes. She wanted to embarrass and slutshame in the same vein. But also expected Willow to check she was Ok. Make it make sense). She then throws the mother of all tantrums, berating Harvey for ending things with her and bitching about his new love interest, Willow, for not checking if she was OK. To Willow’s friends. Behind her back. The hypocrisy here was off the charts.

she meets up with his ex and proceeds to bash him further.

he agrees to meet up with her (presumably for some type of closure). She spends the entire conversation yelling, shouting over him and refusing to answer his questions or clarify. E.g she calls him a liar, so he asks her where she thinks he has lied. She just ignores this with “you can’t argue with stupid”. It makes no sense. She was never interested in being understood or having empathy, or even reaching some sort of mutual concessus. She might as well have said “how dare you not want to be with me? How dare you refuse to give me something I’ve decided I’ve wanted”?

the worst thing for me is, she brings up Emily and how “everyone” thinks he’s an asshole, while also repeatedly yelling at home from across the table “youre an asshole”. It’s a hugely unfair comparison, it’s hugely unfair to weaponise his past relationship against him (especially since she dated him in the knowledge of what had happened), and it’s abuse to triangulate someone like that, a common narcissist tactic. It’s a control tactic, to make Harvey feel ganged up on, to override his viewpoint and make him feel alienated and self conscious and to try and get him to agree to her viewpoint.

when he doesn’t react to all of this, she tries a different tactic - apologising insincerely and “crying”. Sorry but did anyone else notice any tears? Nope me neither. And they switched off pretty quickly too.

It’s embarrassing that she’s behaving like a pathetic toddler, but I genuinely think the way she’s behaving is pretty abusive and manipulative. Is Harvey a dick? Yeh probably. But that doesn’t negate her behaviour being crappy too. If it was a man shouting down a woman like that in public, it would be (rightfully) seen as abusive and unpalatable.

The name calling, the entitlement, the triangulation, the yelling, the fake crying… all of it is a giant red flag. I don’t blame Harvey for getting the ick and running a mile. I think he showed a lot of constraint, and I don’t even think the guy is much of a decent person.
 
I’m watching the latest episode in drabs during coffee breaks ha (I had to skip the Freddy double date scene because it was just so awkward and cringe. My god).

I’ve got a bit of a controversial opinion… but the way Imogen has behaved towards Harvey is actually pretty bleeping disgusting, and I say this knowing full well that Harvey is a bit of a pig.

firstly, they had a casual thing going on. He was staying over, sleeping with her, cuddling her and buying her gifts. Neither of them made it official and Imogen has never contradicted the fact it was casual. She got feelings for Harvey, they’ve done relationshipy things so she has decided that she is owed a relationship, despite this never being something Harvey agreed to.

he has proceeded to end things with her, in person and via text (she hasn’t contradicted this either). But because she has decided she wants a relationship with him, she appears to have ignored this.

when she has discovered he’s seeing someone else, she then totally violates this new girls privacy by discussing her shopping for underwear and her sex life (to me, this has bullying vibes. She wanted to embarrass and slutshame in the same vein. But also expected Willow to check she was Ok. Make it make sense). She then throws the mother of all tantrums, berating Harvey for ending things with her and bitching about his new love interest, Willow, for not checking if she was OK. To Willow’s friends. Behind her back. The hypocrisy here was off the charts.

she meets up with his ex and proceeds to bash him further.

he agrees to meet up with her (presumably for some type of closure). She spends the entire conversation yelling, shouting over him and refusing to answer his questions or clarify. E.g she calls him a liar, so he asks her where she thinks he has lied. She just ignores this with “you can’t argue with stupid”. It makes no sense. She was never interested in being understood or having empathy, or even reaching some sort of mutual concessus. She might as well have said “how dare you not want to be with me? How dare you refuse to give me something I’ve decided I’ve wanted”?

the worst thing for me is, she brings up Emily and how “everyone” thinks he’s an asshole, while also repeatedly yelling at home from across the table “youre an asshole”. It’s a hugely unfair comparison, it’s hugely unfair to weaponise his past relationship against him (especially since she dated him in the knowledge of what had happened), and it’s abuse to triangulate someone like that, a common narcissist tactic. It’s a control tactic, to make Harvey feel ganged up on, to override his viewpoint and make him feel alienated and self conscious and to try and get him to agree to her viewpoint.

when he doesn’t react to all of this, she tries a different tactic - apologising insincerely and “crying”. Sorry but did anyone else notice any tears? Nope me neither. And they switched off pretty quickly too.

It’s embarrassing that she’s behaving like a pathetic toddler, but I genuinely think the way she’s behaving is pretty abusive and manipulative. Is Harvey a dick? Yeh probably. But that doesn’t negate her behaviour being crappy too. If it was a man shouting down a woman like that in public, it would be (rightfully) seen as abusive and unpalatable.

The name calling, the entitlement, the triangulation, the yelling, the fake crying… all of it is a giant red flag. I don’t blame Harvey for getting the ick and running a mile. I think he showed a lot of constraint, and I don’t even think the guy is much of a decent person.

Excellent analysis but she’s clearly mad and knows she has a place in the gang and on E4 if she acts like this.
Either way there’s only one possible answer for this dick driven mania..Harvey must be amazing in bed (I’ve always suspected as much 😉)
 
Excellent analysis but she’s clearly mad and knows she has a place in the gang and on E4 if she acts like this.
Either way there’s only one possible answer for this dick driven mania..Harvey must be amazing in bed (I’ve always suspected as much 😉)

I agree, though I can’t decide if that makes it better or worse?

is acting like a needy, psychotic, abusive weirdo better or worse if you’re mostly doing it to get a place on a TV show?
 
first ever tattle comment (yay lol) but i just had to say i cannot stand Willow! although she wasn’t technically in the wrong in the Harvey situation, she comes across as incredibly desperate and Imogen was right, she isn’t a girls girl.. isn’t Issy supposed to be one of her best friends and was seeing Harvey first? just a weird set up, it’s all so incestuous in Chelsea, couldn’t be me! loving the addition of Imogen though, we needed an injection of fresh drama and fighting lol

agreed! Willow's smug face like she'd got the prize, seriously. Firstly, it's Harvey - HARVEY! and secondly, you'll be next, dummy, you're just flavour of the moment - get ready for a LV bag and a bin off :rolleyes:
 
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Completely agree with everything you've said.

She completely embarrassed herself and showed why Harvey got the ick. She was mental. Not a good look.

I also think she thought Harvey was a meal ticket for tv and becoming a celebrity. He probably told her so much crap and she lapped it up becuase she's so arrogant yet very naive.

I don’t think she is as naive as she made out tbh.

I agree she saw Harvey as a bit of a meal ticket to TV, which ultimately is what he turned out to be for her.

I think a lot of MIC men justify treating women poorly on the basis that they know there are ulterior motives for wanting to date them.

I remember when they used to do Uni circuits and the girls would just throw themselves at cast members. I don’t know if it’s still the case but I expect so. And this was the era before the influencer - these girls just wanted to shag MIC cast members for the story, it wasn’t even about lucrative insta opportunities or appearing on the show. Now that there’s a cash benefit I can imagine the appeal has quadrupled (for both sexes).

one of my Uni friends shagged Francis Boule back in the day, and there’s no way she would’ve looked twice at him if he hadn’t been on MIC. She wasn’t looking for anything relationship wise, she just wanted a funny anecdote. But now? Honestly I think she’d have pushed for something more because starring in a season of MIC is a ticket to an influencer career.

for info: she said that he seemed a bit eccentric and nerdy, but he wasn’t rude or unpleasant to her. He messaged her on Twitter, invited her back to his hotel and then paid for her taxi the next morning.
 
I agree, though I can’t decide if that makes it better or worse?

is acting like a needy, psychotic, abusive weirdo better or worse if you’re mostly doing it to get a place on a TV show?
I need to watch this week's first-look episode to see the full extent of it. From what I've seen so far, it's a classic case of girl gets too caught up on boy who's made it clear he wants nothing serious but completely reads the signals how she wants to read them/gets caught up on the romantic delusion that she'll be able to change his mind. I think Harvey should also have applied some intelligence to the situation and thought "hmm, if I gift this girl who's clearly way more into me than I am here a designer handbag, what might she read from that?".

As for Willow, she doesn't owe Imogen anything, but it's clear from this situation and the India/Mallorca situation that she loves antagonising other women and pushing their buttons. Imogen is clearly insecure AF, hence why she's behaving so petulantly. Willow should just take the moral high ground and not try to goad her. She's always very smug when she finds herself in these love triangles and clearly relishes being "the winning woman".
 
I don’t think she is as naive as she made out tbh.

I agree she saw Harvey as a bit of a meal ticket to TV, which ultimately is what he turned out to be for her.

I think a lot of MIC men justify treating women poorly on the basis that they know there are ulterior motives for wanting to date them.

I remember when they used to do Uni circuits and the girls would just throw themselves at cast members. I don’t know if it’s still the case but I expect so. And this was the era before the influencer - these girls just wanted to shag MIC cast members for the story, it wasn’t even about lucrative insta opportunities or appearing on the show. Now that there’s a cash benefit I can imagine the appeal has quadrupled (for both sexes).

one of my Uni friends shagged Francis Boule back in the day, and there’s no way she would’ve looked twice at him if he hadn’t been on MIC. She wasn’t looking for anything relationship wise, she just wanted a funny anecdote. But now? Honestly I think she’d have pushed for something more because starring in a season of MIC is a ticket to an influencer career.

for info: she said that he seemed a bit eccentric and nerdy, but he wasn’t rude or unpleasant to her. He messaged her on Twitter, invited her back to his hotel and then paid for her taxi the next morning.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Francis Boule

I think she was happy for any air time even if it was bad air time. That was what I meant by naive. Probably cos I'm waaay to old to be watching MIC and just found it incredibly immature behaviour and can't fathom why anyone would want to show themselves up like that 🤦‍♀️

However I think guys get away with so much these days by using the just dating vs exclusive labels. This was never a thing 20 years ago. It's a bloody minefield. Glad I'm old and passed all that nonsense 😆
 
I don’t think she is as naive as she made out tbh.

I agree she saw Harvey as a bit of a meal ticket to TV, which ultimately is what he turned out to be for her.

I think a lot of MIC men justify treating women poorly on the basis that they know there are ulterior motives for wanting to date them.

I remember when they used to do Uni circuits and the girls would just throw themselves at cast members. I don’t know if it’s still the case but I expect so. And this was the era before the influencer - these girls just wanted to shag MIC cast members for the story, it wasn’t even about lucrative insta opportunities or appearing on the show. Now that there’s a cash benefit I can imagine the appeal has quadrupled (for both sexes).

one of my Uni friends shagged Francis Boule back in the day, and there’s no way she would’ve looked twice at him if he hadn’t been on MIC. She wasn’t looking for anything relationship wise, she just wanted a funny anecdote. But now? Honestly I think she’d have pushed for something more because starring in a season of MIC is a ticket to an influencer career.

for info: she said that he seemed a bit eccentric and nerdy, but he wasn’t rude or unpleasant to her. He messaged her on Twitter, invited her back to his hotel and then paid for her taxi the next morning.
Eurrgghh, how did your friend put herself through that with Boulle 😅 Reminds me of my friend's girlf who went to Exeter Uni and woke up to find Jamie skulking around her flat (having just shagged her flatmate). It's pretty predatory behaviour when you think about it.
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I agree, though I can’t decide if that makes it better or worse?

is acting like a needy, psychotic, abusive weirdo better or worse if you’re mostly doing it to get a place on a TV show?
Holy smokes - I've just watched the heated bar scene between Imogen and Harvey. Wtaf🥴Bless her - she still hasn't learned how the male brain works 👀
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I'm really confused by this Freddie/Mia thing - weren't they introduced all of five minutes ago, yet he's saying she "brings out a different side of him" and throwing a whole dinner party so she can meet his friends? He's hired a duck!ng venue ffs😂

Re Harvey and Willow - I'll jab my eardrums and eyes out with burning hot tweezers if I have to witness them getting off with each other again.

And did anyone else notice Harvey stifling his laughter while he was supposedly apologising to Imogen at the dinner table? What a w4nk🥴

Also, what character development from Sam Prince...how the fook is he advising Rez to think about his commitment towards Bella.
 
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