Love Island 2022 #31 Jacques is LITERALLY out the window and deleted

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stardust21 said:
I am getting really sick and tired of people using the tragic early deaths of three people in an attempt to stifle conversation on Jacques toxic behaviour. Much of the comments calling Jacques out are based on personal lived experiences of those who have been in abusive relationships, and I find it gross that people are saying #bekind people have committed suicide associated with Love Island. This stupid argument is an attempt to shut down conversation and is also arguable in itself very toxic.

Firstly, Caroline Flack was never a contestant on LI, she never appeared on it as a reality TV star. If you’re going to pass any blame onto a TV show for her death, I’d argue Strictly made her more famous than LI did. Strictly has 10M views a week, by a broad range of the public. LI has 3M with the majority being from one demographic (young and female).

Secondly, none of these deaths happened as a result of the show. Yes Mike and Sophie appeared on the show, but that doesn’t mean it’s the shows fault. Mental Health is such a complex issue. People who don’t like reality TV have just latched onto this argument as a means of persuading other people that this is a reason the show should end.

Thirdly, I’m going to say this again, but I find it frankly disgusting that people are essentially saying you can’t call out his behaviour because “he has ADHD”. Why is it acceptable for him and his family to create even more misunderstanding about this condition? Isn’t life hard enough for people who are neurodivergent (people who do not think in a typical way), without having head behaviour claimed to be the reason for it. You can have ADHD and be a head. You can have ADHD and not be a head. You can not have ADHD and be a head. All of these things are true.

I have not seen anyone say “Jacques deserves to die” or anything sick like that. I haven’t seen anyone say anything that is harsh or unfair in regards to Jacques. All I have seen is people interpreting his behaviour based on their lived experiences. That is literally the whole point of Reality TV…. Many people love to watch it so they can talk about it and that’s the interesting part. That’s why we’re all on tattle. That’s why people tweet along. That’s why Reddit advertise in the LI breaks.

He was clearly asked to leave the show because of his aggressive and manipulative behaviour and reactions. He should have never been allowed on the show in the first place and hopefully LI producers will alter the interview stages to ensure this doesn’t happen with a contestant again.
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Well said.
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This is latter part of tonights show..giving me hope my faves kiss & make up🤣🙏🙏🥺
 

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9961 said:
I’m so sick of the “three people died because of this show” narrative. It’s such a reach. Each of those people was deeply troubled in ways that were unrelated to Love Island. There is no evidence to suggest it was anything to do with the show. If you go on love island, you are putting yourself out there to have your behaviour critiqued and commented on - that’s literally the point of reality tv.
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I didnt suggest it was related to the show, i just pointed put that they happened to be on the show. Fine critque people but not people with mental health issues.. that was my message. If you think thats acceptable then really all tge spotlight on mental health clearly jasnt reached the uneducated
 
I keep coming back to the boys’ wilful misreading of the casa amor test being that the boys get to test (try out) different girls when it’s always been a test of loyalty / character / relationship strength. (Ie jumping ship is no bad thing if it’s for genuine reason, as opposed to just wanting to have your cake and eat it too). Chloe even spelt this out to Toby last year.

So yes Jacques, Casa amor was indeed a test like you kept saying. And you failed mate. Time to start treating people with more kindness and respect.
 
stardust21 said:
I am getting really sick and tired of people using the tragic early deaths of three people in an attempt to stifle conversation on Jacques toxic behaviour. Much of the comments calling Jacques out are based on personal lived experiences of those who have been in abusive relationships, and I find it gross that people are saying #bekind people have committed suicide associated with Love Island. This stupid argument is an attempt to shut down conversation and is also arguable in itself very toxic.

Firstly, Caroline Flack was never a contestant on LI, she never appeared on it as a reality TV star. If you’re going to pass any blame onto a TV show for her death, I’d argue Strictly made her more famous than LI did. Strictly has 10M views a week, by a broad range of the public. LI has 3M with the majority being from one demographic (young and female).

Secondly, none of these deaths happened as a result of the show. Yes Mike and Sophie appeared on the show, but that doesn’t mean it’s the shows fault. Mental Health is such a complex issue. People who don’t like reality TV have just latched onto this argument as a means of persuading other people that this is a reason the show should end.

Thirdly, I’m going to say this again, but I find it frankly disgusting that people are essentially saying you can’t call out his behaviour because “he has ADHD”. Why is it acceptable for him and his family to create even more misunderstanding about this condition? Isn’t life hard enough for people who are neurodivergent (people who do not think in a typical way), without having head behaviour claimed to be the reason for it. You can have ADHD and be a head. You can have ADHD and not be a head. You can not have ADHD and be a head. All of these things are true.

I have not seen anyone say “Jacques deserves to die” or anything sick like that. I haven’t seen anyone say anything that is harsh or unfair in regards to Jacques. All I have seen is people interpreting his behaviour based on their lived experiences. That is literally the whole point of Reality TV…. Many people love to watch it so they can talk about it and that’s the interesting part. That’s why we’re all on tattle. That’s why people tweet along. That’s why Reddit advertise in the LI breaks.

He was clearly asked to leave the show because of his aggressive and manipulative behaviour and reactions. He should have never been allowed on the show in the first place and hopefully LI producers will alter the interview stages to ensure this doesn’t happen with a contestant again.
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I hate to make it about race/gender but where was the outrage from all of these people when Amber recieved that much hate that her family had to actually close down her twitter account? Where was this energy for Remi when people took the piss out of his dancing and rapping to the point where he looked like he was going to cry on live tv, or when he came out and openly said Jacques was a vile bully to him? Where was this energy for Ekin when Jacques got up and continuously shouted in her face and slut shamed her, or when people took the piss out of Tasha’s voice (something that she can’t help due to being deaf)?? It’s always the attractive while male that gets away with this type of vile behaviour, if it was Dami or Ekin for example then everyone would be dragging them through the mud and wouldn’t even think to utter the words “be kind” 😡 I’m honestly over it.
 
stardust21 said:
I am getting really sick and tired of people using the tragic early deaths of three people in an attempt to stifle conversation on Jacques toxic behaviour. Much of the comments calling Jacques out are based on personal lived experiences of those who have been in abusive relationships, and I find it gross that people are saying #bekind people have committed suicide associated with Love Island. This stupid argument is an attempt to shut down conversation and is also arguable in itself very toxic.

Firstly, Caroline Flack was never a contestant on LI, she never appeared on it as a reality TV star. If you’re going to pass any blame onto a TV show for her death, I’d argue Strictly made her more famous than LI did. Strictly has 10M views a week, by a broad range of the public. LI has 3M with the majority being from one demographic (young and female).

Secondly, none of these deaths happened as a result of the show. Yes Mike and Sophie appeared on the show, but that doesn’t mean it’s the shows fault. Mental Health is such a complex issue. People who don’t like reality TV have just latched onto this argument as a means of persuading other people that this is a reason the show should end.

Thirdly, I’m going to say this again, but I find it frankly disgusting that people are essentially saying you can’t call out his behaviour because “he has ADHD”. Why is it acceptable for him and his family to create even more misunderstanding about this condition? Isn’t life hard enough for people who are neurodivergent (people who do not think in a typical way), without having head behaviour claimed to be the reason for it. You can have ADHD and be a head. You can have ADHD and not be a head. You can not have ADHD and be a head. All of these things are true.

I have not seen anyone say “Jacques deserves to die” or anything sick like that. I haven’t seen anyone say anything that is harsh or unfair in regards to Jacques. All I have seen is people interpreting his behaviour based on their lived experiences. That is literally the whole point of Reality TV…. Many people love to watch it so they can talk about it and that’s the interesting part. That’s why we’re all on tattle. That’s why people tweet along. That’s why Reddit advertise in the LI breaks.

He was clearly asked to leave the show because of his aggressive and manipulative behaviour and reactions. He should have never been allowed on the show in the first place and hopefully LI producers will alter the interview stages to ensure this doesn’t happen with a contestant again.
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What stardust said 😘
 
Stealingstyle said:
I didnt suggest it was related to the show, i just pointed put that they happened to be on the show. Fine critque people but not people with mental health issues.. that was my message. If you think thats acceptable then really all tge spotlight on mental health clearly jasnt reached the uneducated
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People with MH conditions aren’t exempt from criticism especially not if they treat people badly and expect a free pass because of it. It’s nothing to do with being uneducated 🙄 a lot of abusive men have MH conditions, it doesn’t make abusive behaviour acceptable. Absolutely bizarre opinion
 
Stealingstyle said:
A person with well controlled opinions would not comment or labell the guy an abuser or gaslighter. Ffs its a game show hes a 23td year boy
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Are you taking the piss? Is this Jacques mums burner?? He is a vile, manipulative, disgusting, gaslighting bully. What does age have to do with anything, Gemma is 19 years of age and doesn’t act anything like he does. If you want a place to praise Jacques and his behavior then this is not the place for you, maybe try facebook as they welcome all Jacques fans. Bore off 🤮
 
ginginginster said:
Is it just me who thinks Coco was mad to bail on MAFS to be in Casa Amor?! Yes LI is more popular I imagine but Casa girls never do well out if the show really. MAFS is much more likely to be a longer term project etc…
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Something similar happened to Chloe last season where she was originally scouted for Ready to Mingle but was later asked to be a bombshell on Love Island. It’s possible that ITV just thought she was better fit for LI. Not to mention the fact that we would’ve missed out on tittygate had she went for MAFS instead 😩
 
BDY_97 said:
I hate to make it about race/gender but where was the outrage from all of these people when Amber recieved that much hate that her family had to actually close down her twitter account? Where was this energy for Remi when people took the piss out of his dancing and rapping to the point where he looked like he was going to cry on live tv, or when he came out and openly said Jacques was a vile bully to him? Where was this energy for Ekin when Jacques got up and continuously shouted in her face and slut shamed her, or when people took the piss out of Tasha’s voice (something that she can’t help due to being deaf)?? It’s always the attractive while male that gets away with this type of vile behaviour, if it was Dami or Ekin for example then everyone would be dragging them through the mud and wouldn’t even think to utter the words “be kind” 😡 I’m honestly over it.
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I agree with what you’ve said. And I do wonder if people would be saying the same if he looked different.

A special mention to Tasha, who as a deaf person will have struggled with communication as a very young child. This will have impacted her. In a similar, yet obviously different, way to the fact Jacques has issues with communication due to ADHD.

There doesn’t seem to be any issue from anyone for people talking about her inability to commit to a guy. No one’s sat there saying “don’t talk about Tasha, she has issues with communication because she’s deaf and that’s why she’s leading Andrew on” - and the reason for that is because it’s a stupid argument.

We all have problems. We all have lived experiences. We all have things that have happened in our lives that shape who we are and how we react to things.

Also as an aside to my Ted Talk a second ago, ADHD isn’t a mental health condition. It’s a “brain disorder” which essentially just means your brain works in a different way. So I’m not even sure why people are comparing the two… maybe it’s because his family have used it as a scape goat and led people to misunderstand it? 🙄

Sorry for my rants, I’m just so sick and tired of people trying to come up with excuses for peoples toxic behaviour. It’s not okay.
 
Lillyloo said:
She should absolutely not have left with him! Whether they end up together on the outside or not she’s only known him 2 weeks. Love island is a massive stepping stone career wise and the longer she stays in the more publicity, brand deals and tv appearances she’ll receive on the outside. It’s a no brainer really.
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She will be snogging Adam tonight.... He was like I will wait for you..... Why Jacques? You want her to stay and the only way to stay is for her to crack in with Adam...
 
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