Love Island 2021 #31 tactile fanny shutter

Who did you vote for as favourite couple?

  • Mary and Aaron

    Votes: 22 2.6%

  • Kaz and Tyler

    Votes: 48 5.6%

  • Chloe and Toby

    Votes: 375 44.1%

  • Faye and Teddy

    Votes: 122 14.3%

  • Liberty and Jake

    Votes: 15 1.8%

  • Millie and Liam

    Votes: 159 18.7%

  • Ireland so can't vote 😔

    Votes: 110 12.9%
  • Total voters
    851
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Begborrowsteal said:
Again, its not and shouldnt be used as an excuse. Faye has given enough info to reasonably believe it is a trauma response ('brutal' family, her mega insecurity and where it stems from etc). That doesnt make it ok, but it provides background. She is so ruled by her emotions, she clearly hasnt learnt or been shown how to regulate her emotions.

People generally wouldnt ask Why? Why someone acts how they do, or why they do the things they do. You take it at face value. Theres a bigger conversation there about that connecting with mental health stigma in the UK. It doesnt excuse any of it, but its background. I find the links of behaviour and MH interesting, how brains are literally shaped by trauma or how brain injury changes behaviour etc. So thats just me being an egghead 😂

I agree though, glamourising it for entertaiment is simply failing in their duty of care to everyone in there. And for a show thats had sucide related deaths, its really dodgy ground for them to carry on with it.
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It does provide some background, but as you’ve also said, 99% of the public won’t think as deeply into it and instead see that this type of ‘confidence’ is being promoted.

I don’t want this to sound patronising but I am also very aware of the links between trauma and behaviour. I am a mental health nurse so have studied the trauma based approach and work with very complex individuals! (I also could read for hours about it all 😂)

obv not arguing with you at all! The world would be a better place if we all had more understanding of this stuff!
 
Begborrowsteal said:
Completely agree. She has moments of clarity but shes just blagged her way through life with her behaviour. This will (should) be a wake up call for her and those around her.
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Agreed, and with the OP. Let’s stop talking about “trauma” when it comes to Faye. So she might have had a couple of bad break ups, let’s be honest that’s probably all it boils down. She’s just an aggy person and this might wake her up a bit, but she won’t change until she’s much older
 
notsoplainjane said:
Round of applause to you!! All the Faye hate is getting on my tits!!! Yes, she's behaves ridiculously, but it's evident she's trying let her FFS! Jake, Kaz and liam in there and real life are the ones I would veer away from if you watch them closely you can see their true emotions and opinions spring to the surface on their face then its pushed carefully back down to calculate what the best popular game play. I mean just my view and opinion but...
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Faye is definitely trying....

Once again she goes massively over the top and goes round arguing with everyone who voted for her. Literally no one else had a problem apart from her.

She needs to sort herself out desperately. Imagine if anyone had turned on her for her votes, she wouldn't take it but expects everyone else to?!

It's a game show with a £50,000 prize, of course people will be tactical and play a game. They all want that money
 
Satisfying Click said:
My aunt loves Faye. She's one of those, "If I have a problem with you, I'll say it to your face," types :rolleyes:
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It really irks me when people say that, being straight is no excuse for being rude and obnoxious as Faye is. The bitch went out of her way to make herself the centre of attraction during the baby challenge, she has to make herself stand out all the time.
I’ve worked with people like her and at first people avoid the confrontation but everyone has a limit and eventually they get called out. I don’t know what Teddy sees in her, everything about her is fake.
 
I think the issue is that the public loathe a game player more than anything and Faye is perceived as more of a self sabotager than a game player. Bottom line is I wouldn’t like to be Teddy hearing from his parents - if indeed parents are arriving to the villa - that there were over 24,000 Ofcom complaints. That is the most telling of all.
 
ejej123 said:
It does provide some background, but as you’ve also said, 99% of the public won’t think as deeply into it and instead see that this type of ‘confidence’ is being promoted.

I don’t want this to sound patronising but I am also very aware of the links between trauma and behaviour. I am a mental health nurse so have studied the trauma based approach and work with very complex individuals! (I also could read for hours about it all 😂)

obv not arguing with you at all! The world would be a better place if we all had more understanding of this stuff!
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Completely agree! X
 
Inpugnito said:
What? No they are not the same thing 🤷‍♀️ Faye is not either. If anything she might display traits of someone with a personality disorder but that is a stretch
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They are both antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). If you read above I explained there is a bit of a difference, but all in all they’re the same disorder, regardless of how the person actually came to have it.

Aside from that (and this isn’t a reply to your post, just in general) I actually don’t think Faye has a personality disorder, and I also don’t think it’s fair for people online to try label her despite the fact she’s been terrible to those around her. She’s clearly a really troubled person (and I, along with a lot of viewers, even feel distressed watching her) but to try to analyse her behaviour isn’t really right IMO. People can be highly manipulative and controlling without having a disorder. She 1000% needs therapy, but I think a lot of us have met someone like Faye in our lives and learned from that that some people are just shitty towards others (I also don’t want that to be interpreted as me excusing her behaviour at all, I’m just not labelling her/that type of person).

I hope she gets the help she needs and deserves 😊

(ETA fixed typos lol)
 
user5748 said:
They are both antisocial personality disorder (ASPD). If you read above I explained there is a bit of a difference, but all in all they’re the same disorder, regardless of how the person actually came to have it.

Aside from that (and this isn’t a reply to your post, just in general) I actually don’t think Faye has a personality disorder, and I also don’t think it’s fair for people online to try label her despite the fact she’s been terrible to those around her. She’s clearly a really troubled person (and I, along with a lot of viewers, even feel distressed watching her) but to try to analyse her behaviour isn’t really right IMO. People can be highly manipulative and controlling without having a disorder. She 1000% needs therapy, but I think a lot of us have met someone like Faye in our lives and learned from that that some people are just shitty towards others (I also don’t want that to be interpreted as me excusing her behaviour at all, I’m just not labelling her/that type of person).

I hope she gets the help she needs and deserves 😊

(ETA fixed typos lol)
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Interestingly I watch Faye and think ' the Oscar goes tooo !' ...the behaviour last night with the babies was soo fake and almost like she was playing to a script !

I also think her strategy to ' keep it real' and ' to be the ballsy one ' has massively misfired...
 
does anyone else feel like Shannon has somewhat cut ties with the show and the people in it? The fact she didn’t go on that night out last week made me think it but for example, remember she even hinted a while after she left that she was dumped for not wanting to kiss boys in challenges?
The more time goes by I think there’s more to the whole thing!
 
FenellaTheWitch said:
Maybe we've got Liberty all wrong. She might be planning on going down the Amy Hart route and saying she's had her heart broken for the next 2 years.

I can't believe Amy still manages to get mileage out of that.
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Yep… it looks that way but the season amy was in was actually popular. I don’t think people care enough about this year’s contestants to give them the same airtime on shit shows like loose women when they are out of that villa!
 
Bagpuss7 said:
Interestingly I watch Faye and think ' the Oscar goes tooo !' ...the behaviour last night with the babies was soo fake and almost like she was playing to a script !

I also think her strategy to ' keep it real' and ' to be the ballsy one ' has massively misfired...
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I totally agree. She’s been trying to put on a show from day 1 and it hasn’t worked for her 😬 she plans her reactions to everything I think! The baby thing being a really clear example
 
Smoke_and_Mirrors said:
Given the discussion about Faye's behaviour, I'd be interested to know how people view Jess in series 1. She behaved appallingly threatening to punch Josh in the face, smashing things and screaming. All the way through her time in the villa, Caroline was a supporter of hers and looking back at what we know about her emorional wellbeing and relationships, I wonder if she saw herself in Jess and related to her. It was uncomfortable to watch at times for that reason as well as her never being held to account.
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I was wondering how Jess was viewed by the public at the time? I didn't watch it at the time so I'm not sure what was said about her in the press or online, but when I watched it recently I thought she was awful but also felt sorry for her. Like with Faye, she was not suited to the Love Island environment so I think the producers have some accountability there too. It made me uncomfortable how biased Caroline was about her as well, especially how she spoke to her about Naomi after the final. It was all a bit unnecessary in my opinion, but like I said I didn't watch it at the time so maybe she was just echoing what the public thought? It was clear how much Caroline cared about the islanders though 😞
 
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