Love Island 2021 #23

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I’m sure Clarice was happy she’d left otherwise it would have been worse.

I think Faye has been throwing her weight around throughout. I know we’ve seen some before Friday evening but going on the other islanders reaction it seemed that she was like this and they were used to it. Maybe they’ve not shown us. Another poster on here said, and I agree, that it must be draining on the others and although they are off on a day trip it will hardly be fun fun fun after the night before. Teddy won’t be in a fun mood and if I was him I’d be scared to enjoy myself incase she shouts ‘what you laughing about, you should be ashamed….. blah … blah…. ‘ she’s so volatile
 
Lalla said:
Oh please 🙄 right back at ya - patronising much?!

You can perceive whatever you like. Just like I or anyone else can. If we want to, we can all choose to be professionally offended about shouting or swearing or even blasphemy, but to label it abuse is just unnecessarily inflammatory and unhelpful (in my view).

'It's abusive/ they're an abuser' is rapidly becoming one of those trite phrases which is ubiquitous in a critique of someone's personality or behaviour - much like gaslighting, narcissism, etc, rendering it almost meaningless.
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I respectfully disagree. People are becoming more aware of exactly what constitutes abuse. The terms used to describe toxic or abusive situations and relationships being used more frequently and being at the front of public consciousness is no bad thing.

What happened the other night was not a heated exchange or a discussion. Faye was shouting/screaming/name calling at everyone and anyone who dared to speak to her. The girls mainly remained silent for fear of being shouted at. That's verbal abuse.
 
I’m done with Faye after that last ep! Was disguisted how she treated Teddy, but also how she started being rude too all the other guys who were just trying to disfuse the situation, saying to Matt that he never says anything, she is a bully and as far as I’m concerned there’s no coming back from this behaviour
 
Bluewolf said:
I’ve never spoken to anyone like that, nor would I. I’ve also been married almost 16 years and if I spoke to my husband like that I’m fairly certain I’d be on the doorstep as would he were the situation reversed.
not sure where you’re coming from thinking it’s normal and everyone does it. They don’t.
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correct! I’d never dream of speaking to Mr Maracas that way and visa versa! We have too much respect for each other! She has no respect for anyone, you can tell that by the way she guns for anyone who says anything, Matt, Dale…. Even when Chloe said ‘Faye…..’ she went ‘WHAT?!!!’ And Chloe said ‘….. your so good with comebacks’ … makes me think she tried to stick up for the boys but given Fayes reaction she decided against it!
 
Maracas said:
correct! I’d never dream of speaking to Mr Maracas that way and visa versa! We have too much respect for each other! She has no respect for anyone, you can tell that by the way she guns for anyone who says anything, Matt, Dale…. Even when Chloe said ‘Faye…..’ she went ‘WHAT?!!!’ And Chloe said ‘….. your so good with comebacks’ … makes me think she tried to stick up for the boys but given Fayes reaction she decided against it!
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Good point. I heard it in her voice ( Chloe's) like she was trying to get her to pipe down and then last second changed her response bc she knew it wouldn't go over well.

Tippingpoint23 said:
It’s a LOT of Kaz screaming (not aggressively annoyingly) I’ve skipped quite a lot
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lol okay thanks!
 
All caught up - tattle and love island, although I don't ever usually watch best bits I might give it a go! I'm not sure my response to the islanders has ever been as up and down as it has been with some of the islanders this time - Chloe, Toby & Faye included. With Faye, originally I thought she was way too arrogant, then you could see that was a bit of a front and she was actually pretty insecure. Then Friday night she full on outed herself as having some vile personality traits - it's not right to just tell everyone and anyone in the vicinity to F off, because you're angry about a situation. It's not so much about the language used for me, but the childish manner in which she behaved, then she appeared to just get angrier and angrier!

Can't believe we've gone pretty much full circle and now Chloe and Toby seem to be the most normal ones in there. I did really like Millie and Liam before CA, and I still do like Millie, for me, she is the nicest girl in there, and I think she is so pretty! I think Liam is just a bit of a wet wipe his personality is... non-existent, and I'm not sure what she finds attractive there apart from superficial looks.

As much as I think Liberty is a sweet girl, I don't want her and snakey jakey to win :(

My feeling's towards the behaviors Kaz has exhibited in the villa has never changed - I find her too loud, too showy and I think she was massively hypocritical for what she did to (...Matt!?) considering how much she went off at Toby / Tyler when they did things to her she found unacceptable!
 
I feel like it’s all an act. Exaggerating the confrontation and hurt for airtime and the deals on the other side. She thinks she’s the public’s hero not allowing herself to be walked over. She’s miscalculated because she’s just coming off as an hole. It went on and on. When she’s in the bottom three on Sunday we’ll see the real Faye because she’ll be wondering what she did to land herself there.
 
Zoe88 said:
Faye's whole personality is this woman who's been wronged and uses that for everything. She can't carry on like that. At some point you have to work on yourself and not expect everyone around you to excuse yourself and make allowances and use it as a get out card. If you know that's why you react like that, you work on it and become a better person.
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Absolutely!
I appreciate that she felt she needed to fight her corner (and the other girls' corner!) and the cameras were there so I'm guessing she thought that was a good opportunity to make (or shout🙄) a statement, however she could have done it in a much better, more powerful and reasonable way.
Sadly, her intended message got lost in a tirade of abuse. She certainly has a lot to learn! Not only she wasn't ready for LI, she isn't ready for any relationship, away from the cameras and the public eye!
 
Bluewolf said:
I’ve never spoken to anyone like that, nor would I. I’ve also been married almost 16 years and if I spoke to my husband like that I’m fairly certain I’d be on the doorstep as would he were the situation reversed.
not sure where you’re coming from thinking it’s normal and everyone does it. They don’t.
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This 🙌 arguing as a couple is normal, being plain nasty and disrespectful is not.
 
Doratheexplorer said:
Have you never spoke to anyone like a piece of tit in your lifetime? I know I have. My husband has spoken to me like that in the past too when things have gotten heated. I forgave him because I love him and I’ve done the same to him in the past too. Couples grow, I know ours have. I don’t know what people expect to happen to Faye. Should she never be loved or go to prison or what?
it was wrong what happened last night but again I think worse has happened on the show, during this season. She shouted and talked down to people but in the real world that happens all the time. Bosses do it, partners do it, pissed Shirley in bees knees on a Saturday night does it, Especially when drink is involved. It’s not right but it’s not the end of the world. It’s up to teddy to decide whether he still wants to tolerate that sort of treatment.
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No, I haven’t. we’ve been together 26yrs I’ve called him a twit but only in jest. And he’s never raised his voice at me. If he treated me or spoke to me like tit our marriage would most likely be over.
 
I only caught up with Fridays episode last night and I thought it was interesting that nobody even attempted to see if Faye was ok or rallied round her after the clips, they all know exactly what was going to happen so it’s clearly been a pattern in there. They all seemed awkward around her and kept their distance. Dale was the only one who made a slight attempt and he soon realised he was waisting his time, he hasn’t been in long so clearly wasn’t as aware of the others that it was pointless.

Contrast that with Libby and they were all straight away seeing how she was and also with the boys they checked in on Jake and Teddy. They all scarpered from Faye and tried to get themselves away when she started kicking off.
 
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