Love Island 2021 #23

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bella15jade said:
No one is gonna agree but idgaf. sick of people acting like teddy is some kind of saint he never told her what went down at casa and yeah I agree she shouldnā€™t be shouting about it but she has every right to be pissed. also him calling her an idiot is a red flag name calling shouldnā€™t be a thing in ā€˜relationshipsā€™ itā€™s gross. and why didnā€™t he just walk away when he knew she was wound up and told him to go.
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I agree actually. He did some shady tit that ordinarily people would have issue with but because Faye is so explosive, everyone looks past it. I think he is a lovely guy and doesnā€™t deserve the tit from Faye but he was 100% flirtatious in CA and for someone like Faye that is a red flag to a bull. She went OFF and everyone is so focused on that that theyā€™re forgetting that Teddy was actually quite tactical himself and was certainly sniffing about in CA. Like i do think heā€™s a gent a dote but he is covering his ass too but Faye comes off worse because she canā€™t hold her piss
 
Faye always mentioning that she was dreading the ā€œgā€ word and that she doesnā€™t wanna be somebodyā€™s girlfriend, WHAT THE ACTUAL HELL ARE YOU DOING ON LOVE ISLAND THEN, has somebody just let her into the villa for a wander? She went on about Lucinda wanting ā€˜opportunitiesā€™ but if sheā€™s not looking to be somebodyā€™s girlfriend then what is she in there for? Case closed:coffee:
 
Will she give Hugo a chance on the outside?

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Lalla said:
I totally agree. I'm pretty disappointed by a lot of views on here, I normally find I'm in step with most opinions on Tattle, but some of the comments about Faye over the last day are pure Mumsnet (that bastion of perfect female behaviour where someone once told me I should have my kids taken into care because I swore in front of them). Calling Faye a potty mouth (such an absolute cringe term), that she's common, thick, has no class etc - because she got upset and made a scene, didn't fit in with some idea of how women should behave - she wasn't dignified like Millie (who is a bloody doormat frankly). All those type of comments really make me uncomfortable.
It's exactly the same as Liam and Matt sitting there judging Faye, who the duck is Liam the duplicitous cheater to judge anyone?!

I'm a lot older than Faye. My dad brought me up never to take any tit from anyone. So I do argue, I shout and I certainly swear, I have since I was in my teens and I'm sure I will do it again. I will stand up for myself and my friends.

Raising your voice and telling someone to duck off or that they're a prick is not abuse. Speaking down to someone, talking over them, most people do that in the heat of an argument at least once. Arguments aren't like on TV where everyone gives the other person a chance to air their views, is respectful and considered!

Abuse to me is when someone is screaming in your face (sometimes for hours) that you're an ugly dirty worthless bleep, you're fat and disgusting, repulsive, grotesque etc, any manner of insults. Spitting on you because you're nothing. And yes, that's happened to me more than once so I think I know the difference between that and a heated exchange.
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Oh please. :rolleyes: People experience abuse differently and there are many forms of abuse. Just because you have one specific experience in mind doesn't mean that's what it looks like for everyone else and it certainly does not make you the authority on everyone else's perception of abuse. Also just because you would behave like Faye doesn't make the behaviour right.

Diagnosis123 said:
Will she give Hugo a chance on the outside?

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Didn't she say her eyes were green? Looking like a lifeless blow up doll. Can't wait for the entire 2021 set to fade into obscurity.
 
I completely get both sides of the Faye argument... She kind of reminds me of myself when I was younger šŸ™ˆ constantly had walls up, afraid to get hurt so pushed people away before they got the chance to reject me... It was horrific to watch but her laughing at the clips of Sam and herself were from embarrassment and deflection.

However, while I can understand her insecurity I do agree with most people that she could completely have handled things differently and she could try speaking to someone to rationalise her emotions before she flies off the handle.
 
Watched unseen bits and reminded me of why I like Faye sometimes. When sheā€™s not trying to be funny or feisty etc she does come across as nice. And her and Teddy had a few nice moments.

I also liked Abby and Jake which I donā€™t always.

One person I canā€™t stand is Tyler - even in Unseen Bits. You can tell he has no time or respect for Matt and he seems to see himself as an OG since he got into the villa five minutes before casa amore. I really really need him gone come Monday.
 
hehehe said:
Oh please. :rolleyes: People experience abuse differently and there are many forms of abuse. Just because you have one specific experience in mind doesn't mean that's what it looks like for everyone else and it certainly does not make you the authority on everyone else's perception of abuse. Also just because you would behave like Faye doesn't make the behaviour right.
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Oh please šŸ™„ right back at ya - patronising much?!

You can perceive whatever you like. Just like I or anyone else can. If we want to, we can all choose to be professionally offended about shouting or swearing or even blasphemy, but to label it abuse is just unnecessarily inflammatory and unhelpful (in my view).

'It's abusive/ they're an abuser' is rapidly becoming one of those trite phrases which is ubiquitous in a critique of someone's personality or behaviour - much like gaslighting, narcissism, etc, rendering it almost meaningless.
 
sydneymae said:
Do we think Liam and millie have a chance of coming second or even still winning? Its clear millie is ultimately going back to Liam. They will come out of the villa in a relationship but I cant see it lasting once millie sees how casa amor played out.
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I think they will survive for a good while. Heā€™s clearly very sorry and knows what he could have lost. Despite hating what he did to Millie we canā€™t help but back them in this house.
 
Lalla said:
Well, yes and no. Before that relationship I would have considered screaming the worst possible insults in someone's face, telling them they are nothing, spitting on them, being physical with them, to be abusive. Having been through it I still think they're abusive. Oddly though not one person I knew thought there was anything wrong with it, including the police. It didn't fit in with their definition of abuse and I was clearly able to stick up for myself, apparently. So there you go.

That relationship skewed nothing for me. I've always argued and shouted (and had no issue with someone arguing and shouting back, and I've always known the difference between a heated argument that goes too far (which is how I'd describe what Faye did last night), and abuse.

But I'll accept I may be in the minority on this, and leave it there.
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Of course people raise their voice in an arguments. We all shout.

What I was clumsily trying to say was that you thought how Faye acted was acceptable. She was sat there telling people to duck off, to shut up, calling them all pricks AFTER she had tried to start a conversation that didn't go how she wanted.

You could see the other girls didn't and never, say anything against her. Why? Are they scared she will start on them?

I was in an abusive relationship and did the Freedom programme a few years after. That's what shown me what is normal and given me the skills to recognise when someone is displaying abusive signs. The word abuse also leads people to think that it needs to be severe or leave marks etc because of the power of the word.

Of course someone screaming abuse in your face is abuse but so was Faye and her behaviour.

Low level abuse also needs calling out and stopping because that's what escalates into the bigger abuse once they see what they can get away with and what they can see will be excused.

Lalla said:
Oh please šŸ™„ right back at ya - patronising much?!

You can perceive whatever you like. Just like I or anyone else can. If we want to, we can all choose to be professionally offended about shouting or swearing or even blasphemy, but to label it abuse is just unnecessarily inflammatory and unhelpful (in my view).

'It's abusive/ they're an abuser' is rapidly becoming one of those trite phrases which is ubiquitous in a critique of someone's personality or behaviour - much like gaslighting, narcissism, etc, rendering it almost meaningless.
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The shouting and swearing was not acceptable coupled with her behaviour was what was not acceptable.

I couldn't give a tit about a one off argument or swearing. I swear with the best of them.

However, aside from her awful behaviour over the past two nights, watch her behaviour and how she acts over the series. She displays classics signs of gas lighting and narcissism. Low level but the signs are all there.

Faye clearly has issues and she needs help to sort them out and pronto and Love Island is absolutely not the show for her. She needs to go and get help.
 
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