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Anybody seen it yet? On BBC 1 tonight but already on the iPlayer. Keisha from the sugababes is is involved
 
I jotted down some point as I watched it:

- The fact she experienced racism once at 9 then only after LM fame wasn't overly shocking but I'm suprised she never questioned WHY. It did make me question if during that period she had dark skinned friends because they definitely would have experienced racism between 9 and 19 years old.
- Her parents had a weird attitude. Her Dad saying "I identify myself as John" "I didn't let my colour define me" -- it rubbed me the wrong way but again they are both light skinned and probably know have assimilated "nothing we can do about the racists, we just had to get on"
- I think I know understand why we rarely see her Dad tbh - Leigh Anne starts crying that she never felt good enough and her mum hugs her and her Dad just sits there

- I did appreciate she recognised her pain is small in comparison to other black people (I know its all relative)
- I also appreciated she understands she's in a good position to speak out. I know black people who spoke out about racism before 2020 and were reprimanded at work (yes it happens quite often)
- Andre?? Lol yeah we could of just left him out of this doc. No value added
- I appreciate the fact she is learning and yes you will get things wrong, but trust me that's better than being ignorant
- Suprised she had never heard that "you have to work harder" comment.

- I liked the round table with Keisha, Nao, Raye, Alexandra Burke.
- I understood that comment Leigh Anne made "is it racism or it is in my head" -- trust me it's constant and exhausting. At times I've had to have white friends validate it's racist for me to believe a situation because I feel a lot of people assume "ah here comes the race cards"
- Tbh I would have enjoyed Alexandra Burke heading this doc. Please watch her video here . She really suffered under the music industry.
- Keith story of being replaced whilst STILL in sugarbabes and being called "a bully" ---- BW are labelled bullies, angry, too opinionated but anyone else it's #GirlBoss
- Keisha an honest babe when Leigh Anne asked I'd she would be in LM if she was dark skinned.....
Keisha: "You were palatable. You were chosen for your blackness" -- because the mixed token black girl was enough. I'm not saying Leigh Anne isn't talented, but it's true

- Colourism discussed at last!
- Andre offensive tweets. Boy. He was a colourist through and through.
- And these views of dark skinned BW continues especially with misogynoir

- I was FLABBERGASTED she has just started noting the lack of diversity in her work eg shoots.--- she's just seen this??? Wow.

- I understand her getting angry at racist commenting on the doc when it was coming out but I think black people had valid points even if she "wanted to do something good". Her good intentions can still be scrutinise especially as dark skinned women are continuously removed from the narrative

- Dawn Butler part made me so sad and angry.

- The segment with the 3 dark skinned girls in a podcast that had Leigh Anne as a guest seemed like an interesting conversation.

- They called Jade "a darkie" --- Jesus. And yes she's very white passing (WP so I'm happy she addressed that and the privilege WP gives you.

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- Tbh I'm still feeling a kind way about Leigh Anne after liking Tulisa video last year which slammed Misha B (a dark skinned woman) as a liar about racism experienced on X Factor and she's just a bully. You can view Misha video here
- She has a lovely lovely lovely lovely house
 
I commented about it a little on the Little Mix thread, I completely agree that Alexandra should of fronted it, I do love her anyways she’s fab!!!! Keisha was a highlight to me as well, her views and exploring more of what she said about colourism across the industry would of been something interesting to really pick apart and look at rather than essentially end the convo then on to the next bit.

It all came across to me like she was offered it and suddenly only realised issues within her team not being diverse among other things. Like how did she not notice before? I don’t know, I’m not her and don’t know her work or lifestyle really but it was a bit eh? Why did she suddenly only see things differently two months before recording?!

I didn’t think her family, Andre included came across that well either... they seemed to not care?! I don’t like him anyways because of multiple reasons including those tweets and he still seemed to not care that much or was that sorry for the vile things he said, not just about black people mind you! Horrible man haha!
 
What is a colourist

I get a bit worried how far this is going , if dark skinned black people are pissed off because a light skinned black person is doing something about racism, then isn't that just seeing colour and in itself some inward racism, not only that the worst thing I see is the abuse black people get from other black people, not all black people see racism everyday and don't believe in systemic racism or they have friendships with white people, and how do other black people react , call them uncle Tom's, im bleeping fuming tbh , how dare anyone abuse anyone for having a different view , we arent on teams ffs.

, I know who I am, I'm respectful to any person I meet regardless of colour , if you are a nice person back and we get on then I am very happy in anyone's company regardless of colour , but I stop listening when we start getting down to the bullshit I'm hearing about unconscious bias and all the white hate and blaming white people for everything, I find it offensive to be honest, but then as a white man I guess I need to shut the duck up as I am not allowed an opinion anymore for fear of being called racist , I know who I am , I know I'm not racist , I know I'm fair to everyone as I base my life and relationships on peoples personality and how they are as a person, and if you don't like it tough.
I would love to be a part of the fight against racism, I find the abuse people get for the colour of their skin a disgrace, but once you try you realise no matter what you do you always are the enemy then it becomes difficult to get involved, ive stopped listening to the generalised hatred towards white people now which is just pushing the races apart instead of the unity I want.

No doubt I will get slated for posting the truth I see , but I dont care anymore, if a discussion isn't allowed and everyone understanding how it affects the whole country of all colours then there is nothing more I can do.
 
TripleC's said:
What is a colourist

I get a bit worried how far this is going , if dark skinned black people are pissed off because a light skinned black person is doing something about racism, then isn't that just seeing colour and in itself some inward racism, not only that the worst thing I see is the abuse black people get from other black people, not all black people see racism everyday and don't believe in systemic racism or they have friendships with white people, and how do other black people react , call them uncle Tom's, im bleeping fuming tbh , how dare anyone abuse anyone for having a different view , we arent on teams ffs.

, I know who I am, I'm respectful to any person I meet regardless of colour , if you are a nice person back and we get on then I am very happy in anyone's company regardless of colour , but I stop listening when we start getting down to the bullshit I'm hearing about unconscious bias and all the white hate and blaming white people for everything, I find it offensive to be honest, but then as a white man I guess I need to shut the duck up as I am not allowed an opinion anymore for fear of being called racist , I know who I am , I know I'm not racist , I know I'm fair to everyone as I base my life and relationships on peoples personality and how they are as a person, and if you don't like it tough.
I would love to be a part of the fight against racism, I find the abuse people get for the colour of their skin a disgrace, but once you try you realise no matter what you do you always are the enemy then it becomes difficult to get involved, ive stopped listening to the generalised hatred towards white people now which is just pushing the races apart instead of the unity I want.

No doubt I will get slated for posting the truth I see , but I dont care anymore, if a discussion isn't allowed and everyone understanding how it affects the whole country of all colours then there is nothing more I can do.
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A colourist is someone who hates dark skinned people in the same race (mostly wome merely due to their dark skinned. This goes as far back as Jim Crow, the brown paper bag test etc. All the stuff we all know about. It transcends both Black and Asians.

I was in an anti-racism session yesterday and the example we looked at started with "I'm worried about how far this gone". I didn't think people really said or thought this, but I guess you proved me wrong.

Anyways you seem irritated with all your profanities so I don't know how well recieved my comments will be.

You said you "stop listening when we start getting down to the bullshit I'm hearing about unconscious bias". Just because you don't want to hear it or believe it, does not make it less real. I know anything I say will probably fall on deaf ears but unconscious bias isn't just about race, it covers age, gender, etc. Its mostly seen in the workplace then anything. Places which still do not subscribe to anonymous resumes can be biased unconsciously because the name sounds too black

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Its great that you're respectful to others and noone is accusing you of being racist. It's about pushing anti- racism and that's in all spheres - personal and work and that's the unity we need going forward.

I hope you take my points as constructive and not critical.
 
I respect your points , everyone Is allowed to voice their concerns, my point about worrying about how far this is going is the fact I keep seeing new variants on what racism is , everytime I think I've got to grips with it, another section opens up, as a white male I feel now that rather than step into a minefield of offending people its best if I stay away from trying to get involved to help.
I'm from an era of seeing and hearing racism, I would feel desperately sorry for people having to be subjected to it, I used to doubt whether the police was institutionally racist in the hope our police weren't like that, but the bastards are and still are.

You make the point about unconscious bias, I am wondering if this is something aimed at white people or if we include every single person, if I give myself an example , I have two names to choose for a job , Jamal and Steve unconsciously I may pick Steve, but surely this can't be seen as racism, if you see it from a point of view of I live in the outer part of Birmingham then I mostly encounter Steve's, so I know where I stand in terms of the name, that isn't a slight on jamal on anyway its the brains way of how it's evolved, you will always pick the thing you feel comfortable with.
Now if you turn it back I have no doubt every person of any race would do the same, we are all human and essentially our brains evolve the same way.
Now give me the same names for a job with a profile of qualifications for the job , jamal has 6 As , Steve has 1 A , it would be insane for me to then pick Steve, I want the right people for the job and jamal is clearly the right person.
Moving on to judging appearance, if jamal turned up for an interview wearing jeans , trainers and the impression he can't be arsed , and Steve turns up in a suit , Steve gets the job , and it would be the same the other way around.
If both wear a suit it goes on personalty who was the most enthusiastic etc...

So to use unconscious bias in a way to see racism is just ludicrous, our brains evolve to see familiarity , you can't go into changing evolution overnight and use it against people, so for me it has no place in the discussion of racism, every person of every race does it.
I've been standing at work and two black guys have greeted each other as ",brother" and then ignored me, so clearly I'm over looked and this is unconscious bias.

Whenever someone asked to describe someone , or something I would say the guy in the red with the beard , regardless of colour , I wouldn't say the black guy in the red as to me that's just rude , yet I hear "the white guy" out of the mouths of black people all the time, on TV the jokes have white people as the butt of the joke , big nastie is one if the worst for using the term "white man" , im sick of hearing it , whether you like it or not everything you want changed I see black people being guilty of the same thing.
To me no one should be doing this , by hearing it I get a sense of hatred towards white people , and I see it more and more.

The worst example of disgusting racial abuse or abuse about race was in Tommy Robinsons House, it was on youtube , so we are in Tommy Robinson kitchen , you presume Tommy Robinson is the person I will talk about , actually he had invited people round as a debate , one of them was BLM leader Sasha Johnson, her abuse was aimed at another black guy , he didn't agree or like her militant views , the aggressive tone and her general message , afterward she cornered him and was vile to this guy , she called him uncle Tom, c*** , not the swear word , a disgusting word meaning similar to uncle Tom,
How dare this person do that its disgusting and a disgrace, not only that but I have no respect for BLM and its views , I think its dangerous, I dont believe it promotes or helps black people I see it as a political power base with extreme ideologues that won't work here.

I'm not here to offend merely to put my point as a white person across, I want the end of racism and I want the end of police corruption as I have no doubt they target black people , ive seem first hand its all about arrests and easy targets , so in certain areas they target black youths they can handle in the hope of arrest, but I've also seen them target 80 year old white woman in her home for covid , so to me they are corrupt across the board and need stopping.

I have a view of right and wrong and I know the fundamental version of racism is wrong , but I dont agree that unconscious bias is something you can change or castigate anyone for or even think it has any part in racism , I think its far too simplistic to look at it as just you see this unconsciously therefore you are racist , everyone operates that way

So I would still say something if I heard someone shouting racist abuse, it sort of makes me flinch , not only is it disgraceful and abusive to the person it's aimed at , but if its a white person then it also reflects badly on me , so I would try to stop it.

As for colourism it seems to be a problem that I have no involvement in , as for unconscious bias I think to include it is a case of moving the goalposts unfairly as to what racism is, I see more and more white people feeling they are now targeted and hated and blamed for something that is going beyond what I think is fair and just , I think its dividing the races and not unifying.
Finally the racism on social media can be stopped simply by singling these people out , banning them and jailing them , how a social media site can allow such things I don't know , it really does need ending for the good of our world.

I hope I have given my perspective of how I judge or see people, ive been brought up to respect people respectful to me , to be polite to everyone and then you go from there, I can only judge people by how they interact with me , and if a black person is rude and I don't want interaction with that person , it's not through racism.
I feel sad this country is where its at , we have racist trolls , but on the other hand I am starting to feel targeted and that racism is being seen everywhere in everything , if you look for something and perceive something into a way of thinking, then you see it , in reality it's not there.

I've tried to give an honest perspective , I dont intend to offend , I dont wish to be malicious , but I feel honesty is now the only way , I have to have a voice on the subject because it seems people on TV are thinking for me and putting words into my mouth that I don't say and I am sick of being generalised for being white.
 
I didn't see what was wrong with her dad not wanting to be defined by his race. I don't want to be defined by my mixed heritage either, I am who I am.
What Alexandra says does sound horrible "there's already a black one" and "lighten your skin". But she's someone in the entertainment industry where image is everything and what you looks like is the most important thing. It's not transferable to the average person in a job and not saying black people won't sell. When they put together a group they'll add a blonde one and might say the same thing that "There's already a blonde one" so it might not be racist but instead trying to complete a united colours of Benetton range of people and want it balanced based on asthenics. The lighten skin comment might just be because mixed race appeals to more people and people like Kardashians, Rita ora and dua lipa sell well. So it may not be about race but trying to appeal to the most? Hard to tell without the context. Maybe Kesha was a bully? Or maybe it was all invented because she's black? I don't know.
 
Jeeva said:
I didn't see what was wrong with her dad not wanting to be defined by his race. I don't want to be defined by my mixed heritage either, I am who I am.
What Alexandra says does sound horrible "there's already a black one" and "lighten your skin". But she's someone in the entertainment industry where image is everything and what you looks like is the most important thing. It's not transferable to the average person in a job and not saying black people won't sell. When they put together a group they'll add a blonde one and might say the same thing that "There's already a blonde one" so it might not be racist but instead trying to complete a united colours of Benetton range of people and want it balanced based on asthenics. The lighten skin comment might just be because mixed race appeals to more people and people like Kardashians, Rita ora and dua lipa sell well. So it may not be about race but trying to appeal to the most? Hard to tell without the context. Maybe Kesha was a bully? Or maybe it was all invented because she's black? I don't know.
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The Kardashians, Rita Ora and Dua Lipa are all white aren’t they? I know Armenian and Kosovan heritage - but not mixed race as far as I know.
 
TripleC's said:
I respect your points , everyone Is allowed to voice their concerns, my point about worrying about how far this is going is the fact I keep seeing new variants on what racism is , everytime I think I've got to grips with it, another section opens up, as a white male I feel now that rather than step into a minefield of offending people its best if I stay away from trying to get involved to help.
I'm from an era of seeing and hearing racism, I would feel desperately sorry for people having to be subjected to it, I used to doubt whether the police was institutionally racist in the hope our police weren't like that, but the bastards are and still are.

You make the point about unconscious bias, I am wondering if this is something aimed at white people or if we include every single person, if I give myself an example , I have two names to choose for a job , Jamal and Steve unconsciously I may pick Steve, but surely this can't be seen as racism, if you see it from a point of view of I live in the outer part of Birmingham then I mostly encounter Steve's, so I know where I stand in terms of the name, that isn't a slight on jamal on anyway its the brains way of how it's evolved, you will always pick the thing you feel comfortable with.
Now if you turn it back I have no doubt every person of any race would do the same, we are all human and essentially our brains evolve the same way.
Now give me the same names for a job with a profile of qualifications for the job , jamal has 6 As , Steve has 1 A , it would be insane for me to then pick Steve, I want the right people for the job and jamal is clearly the right person.
Moving on to judging appearance, if jamal turned up for an interview wearing jeans , trainers and the impression he can't be arsed , and Steve turns up in a suit , Steve gets the job , and it would be the same the other way around.
If both wear a suit it goes on personalty who was the most enthusiastic etc...

So to use unconscious bias in a way to see racism is just ludicrous, our brains evolve to see familiarity , you can't go into changing evolution overnight and use it against people, so for me it has no place in the discussion of racism, every person of every race does it.
I've been standing at work and two black guys have greeted each other as ",brother" and then ignored me, so clearly I'm over looked and this is unconscious bias.

Whenever someone asked to describe someone , or something I would say the guy in the red with the beard , regardless of colour , I wouldn't say the black guy in the red as to me that's just rude , yet I hear "the white guy" out of the mouths of black people all the time, on TV the jokes have white people as the butt of the joke , big nastie is one if the worst for using the term "white man" , im sick of hearing it , whether you like it or not everything you want changed I see black people being guilty of the same thing.
To me no one should be doing this , by hearing it I get a sense of hatred towards white people , and I see it more and more.

The worst example of disgusting racial abuse or abuse about race was in Tommy Robinsons House, it was on youtube , so we are in Tommy Robinson kitchen , you presume Tommy Robinson is the person I will talk about , actually he had invited people round as a debate , one of them was BLM leader Sasha Johnson, her abuse was aimed at another black guy , he didn't agree or like her militant views , the aggressive tone and her general message , afterward she cornered him and was vile to this guy , she called him uncle Tom, c*** , not the swear word , a disgusting word meaning similar to uncle Tom,
How dare this person do that its disgusting and a disgrace, not only that but I have no respect for BLM and its views , I think its dangerous, I dont believe it promotes or helps black people I see it as a political power base with extreme ideologues that won't work here.

I'm not here to offend merely to put my point as a white person across, I want the end of racism and I want the end of police corruption as I have no doubt they target black people , ive seem first hand its all about arrests and easy targets , so in certain areas they target black youths they can handle in the hope of arrest, but I've also seen them target 80 year old white woman in her home for covid , so to me they are corrupt across the board and need stopping.

I have a view of right and wrong and I know the fundamental version of racism is wrong , but I dont agree that unconscious bias is something you can change or castigate anyone for or even think it has any part in racism , I think its far too simplistic to look at it as just you see this unconsciously therefore you are racist , everyone operates that way

So I would still say something if I heard someone shouting racist abuse, it sort of makes me flinch , not only is it disgraceful and abusive to the person it's aimed at , but if its a white person then it also reflects badly on me , so I would try to stop it.

As for colourism it seems to be a problem that I have no involvement in , as for unconscious bias I think to include it is a case of moving the goalposts unfairly as to what racism is, I see more and more white people feeling they are now targeted and hated and blamed for something that is going beyond what I think is fair and just , I think its dividing the races and not unifying.
Finally the racism on social media can be stopped simply by singling these people out , banning them and jailing them , how a social media site can allow such things I don't know , it really does need ending for the good of our world.

I hope I have given my perspective of how I judge or see people, ive been brought up to respect people respectful to me , to be polite to everyone and then you go from there, I can only judge people by how they interact with me , and if a black person is rude and I don't want interaction with that person , it's not through racism.
I feel sad this country is where its at , we have racist trolls , but on the other hand I am starting to feel targeted and that racism is being seen everywhere in everything , if you look for something and perceive something into a way of thinking, then you see it , in reality it's not there.

I've tried to give an honest perspective , I dont intend to offend , I dont wish to be malicious , but I feel honesty is now the only way , I have to have a voice on the subject because it seems people on TV are thinking for me and putting words into my mouth that I don't say and I am sick of being generalised for being white.
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I really do get what you're saying and I hope you know that when people try to explain why things like unconscious bias is important, they're not attacking you personally... but you say that it seems like every day a new form of racism is evolving and coming to the fore, which just isn't true. All of these things have always been a problem, it's only now that people speak up enough about them for them to be specifically named. As a white male, you've lived your life with an enormous amount of inherent priviledge (not to say you havent struggled, but your struggles were not a direct result of your whiteness or maleness) so unfortunately we just have to shut up and listen when black people speak about these things. It's absolutely not for you to say whether racism or unconscious bias exists, just because YOU haven't experienced or perpetuated it. It's not about seeing everything as an attack, WE are not the victim.

It's about listening to those voices who have been silenced for so many centuries and now are finally finding a voice. Try to be understanding and empathetic about why there is some resentment in communities of colour towards white people, just as you can I'm sure understand why there is anger from women towards males. It's not an attack on YOU, they don't hate you just as you say you don't hate them. Telling the anecdote of two black people greeting each other and not you and making yourself the victim in the situation is tired and unhelpful, it just can't even compare to lifetimes of suffering and equality. Racism is a thing and whatever form it takes, if a POC tells you it's so, believe it and don't question it or you'll never be a true ally.
 
coconochanel said:
So some black people were angry that a mixed race person was fronting the show. Why, cant mixed raced people experience racism?:mad:
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They do, but compared to darker-skinned Black people they tend to benefit as being seen as more 'palatable' on account of their whiteness. Darker-skinned Black people are still living a very different reality when it comes to racism. Especially women, I hear a lot of mixed race women being told that they're only attractive because they're not 'too Black' etc.

I hope this is right, I should point out I am white. I'm just going from what I've seen/heard online.
 
CloudMeringue said:
I really do get what you're saying and I hope you know that when people try to explain why things like unconscious bias is important, they're not attacking you personally... but you say that it seems like every day a new form of racism is evolving and coming to the fore, which just isn't true. All of these things have always been a problem, it's only now that people speak up enough about them for them to be specifically named. As a white male, you've lived your life with an enormous amount of inherent priviledge (not to say you havent struggled, but your struggles were not a direct result of your whiteness or maleness) so unfortunately we just have to shut up and listen when black people speak about these things. It's absolutely not for you to say whether racism or unconscious bias exists, just because YOU haven't experienced or perpetuated it. It's not about seeing everything as an attack, WE are not the victim.

It's about listening to those voices who have been silenced for so many centuries and now are finally finding a voice. Try to be understanding and empathetic about why there is some resentment in communities of colour towards white people, just as you can I'm sure understand why there is anger from women towards males. It's not an attack on YOU, they don't hate you just as you say you don't hate them. Telling the anecdote of two black people greeting each other and not you and making yourself the victim in the situation is tired and unhelpful, it just can't even compare to lifetimes of suffering and equality. Racism is a thing and whatever form it takes, if a POC tells you it's so, believe it and don't question it or you'll never be a true ally.
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I'm not great at putting stuff into words, which is why I rarely bother getting involved , my point is I'm not a victim I don't see myself that way and I'm not putting anything I feel about this over a black person's horrific ordeal of racism , but to be pragmatic and fair what I dont want to see is a black person using racism back , for me you can't want one thing and do it yourself , I dont stand for that , in my world everyone is equal and everyone should be treated the same , I realise this doesn't happen and we need it to change , but you can't blame a white person for unconscious bias when everyone of every colour has this within them , so is the fight against racism only educating white people about everything they do can be seen as racist and shut your mouth. Or shouldn't we all be working together , ive learned about colourism which shows there is just as much racism in the black community as there is white to black, so it needs to be addressed, I know what I'm trying to say and it's a minefield , I have no interest in upsetting or offending anyone , but likewise if I'm offended I don't want to be ignored because I'm white , isn't that the problem , no one should be offended for their colour, you telling me to not make myself a victim , I'm not, I am pointing out double standards , you can't use racism to fight racism , whether it's liked or not some of the things I hear about racism is offensive and it does feel like an attack , there are white people who don't care or listen , you have your opinion on how white people should act , for me to do the right thing and listen I have to be able to point out things I feel are unfair for me to actively get an understanding we have to be emotionally on a level playing field , I dont want to just be seen as a white man who has white privilege, just see me as an ally , then I'm on board 100% , I'm not saying my problems are more important but if I'm heard then we have common ground , I feel an understanding , I can understand unconscious bias could offend and upset , but as you say its only really starting to be mentioned and what can't be expected to change is how the brain evolves , hopefully the start of this and future generations of white people evolve to not having unconscious bias , but it can't happen overnight , so to use it to blame people is unfair surely , its unconscious, in this instance its going to change slowly and it needs to be understood why it happens.

I think what I'm trying to say is let's all do it together I feel bad for all the new things I hear that has caused upset and that is offensive and the problems , I'm sort of seeing things different to yesterday and trying to learn , I sit writing this and realise it means very little to a black person who has suffered racism and I don't want it to come across as a white person telling them what to do , I dont want to do that and if that's how it's seen then I will stop the dialogue and walk away, my point is still there though I do hear racism toward white people and I do hear white hate , surely this has to be addressed as well.

I've probably messed up everything, it's taken hours to try to put into words what I want to say , I do care very much , I hate people being unfairly treated it's my fundamental bugbear , it seems flippant to describe racism as unfair because that's a given , but it is unfair and it does piss me off to hear it.

Sorry to anyone if I fucked it all up , I can only write how my brain works 😁 it's not the best brain but I would like to think it tries to be fair to everyone
 
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Jeeva said:
I didn't see what was wrong with her dad not wanting to be defined by his race. I don't want to be defined by my mixed heritage either, I am who I am.
What Alexandra says does sound horrible "there's already a black one" and "lighten your skin". But she's someone in the entertainment industry where image is everything and what you looks like is the most important thing. It's not transferable to the average person in a job and not saying black people won't sell. When they put together a group they'll add a blonde one and might say the same thing that "There's already a blonde one" so it might not be racist but instead trying to complete a united colours of Benetton range of people and want it balanced based on asthenics. The lighten skin comment might just be because mixed race appeals to more people and people like Kardashians, Rita ora and dua lipa sell well. So it may not be about race but trying to appeal to the most? Hard to tell without the context. Maybe Kesha was a bully? Or maybe it was all invented because she's black? I don't know.
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I was going to reply then saw new member. So never mind 🤐
 
coconochanel said:
So some black people were angry that a mixed race person was fronting the show. Why, cant mixed raced people experience racism?:mad:
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because they do not experience what fully black women experience and sometimes add to the racism. A lot mixed ppl play both sides of the fence and leigh-anne did it to misha b. Leigh-anne has never been buddies with black women until she needed to
 
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