Kyran Durnin
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jazzbot
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What is the local take on it? We’re all putting the pieces together so may aswell say it!?
Has the partner, who used his own blood son as Kyran’s decoy brought the secret to the grave!?
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Coffee is better than Tea
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Heartbreaking story. Poor Kyran. I am not local but have been following this case. His mother, his grandmother, the mothers partner, they all conspired to keep his death a secret. Bizarre. What about the wider family? I can't figure out the secrecy.
jazzbot
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Did a bit of digging on Maguire. Dodgy character with a string of offences. Dread to think what he might’ve done with Kyran.
Does the mother know? Or is she just aware he’s dead, covered it up and doesn’t know how he was killed? Only explanation I can come up with that she was allowed stay in England and only taken in for questioning in Ireland recently!? So much we don’t know yet.
Were they all terrified of Maguire? Maguires are a gang in Dundalk too so maybe he’s related? Now he’s dead will they speak up?
Coffee is better than Tea
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She might not know and is scared or was scared of Maguire. I read a comment on a Reddit thread I think it was that said the mother of Maguire's kids took her own life not long ago. Going by the photos of him he doesn't look.... normal.
I just cannot understand how the mother and grandmother haven't been arrested and charged for withholding information / giving misleading information. Surely there is a raft of charges they could put against them in the absence of a body. It's public knowledge the grandmother lied about them leaving her house when she reported them "missing" but she possibly hadn't seen her grandchild for 2 years? And a mother to not know where her child is either? It's beyond belief. Clearly dealing with the scum of the earth who don't care about a 6 years old little boys life!
jazzbot
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Another thought that might explain the insanity of it all is that it was an accident? by Maguire? and they all agreed to cover it up?
He killed himself as soon as the cops were onto him. Didn’t do it from guilt 2 years ago.
Spare a thought for his son here too who had to pretend to be Kyran for two years! Imagine doing that a little child! Absolutely traumatic for that little boy too.
Absolutely horrendous stuff! It's incredibly hard to get your head around all that is at play here and now Maguire's children are orphaned as their Mammy has passed too. It's just beyond belief
jazzbot
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Is it a little sister Kyran has?
I was thinking about this case the other and being stunned at how hardcore the mother, grandmother and at the time, this man all are in being able to completely stonewall and not break down in front of the Garda despite it being clear that they must know what happened to Kyran. I know that the personal stakes are high in terms of the consequences if we're looking at manslaughter at the very least, but still. To be able to resolutely give nothing away is astonishing. And reading about Maguire and his history, it's strange that he's been the one to crack. Hopefully that means the Garda are close to finding Kyran's body, so he knew that the net was closing in finally.
I expect we'll never know exactly what happened to Kyran, and this man's suicide has given Kyran's mum a great scapegoat if she ever gets charged. The whole thing is absolutely mindblowing and so hard to believe. Imagine Kryan's siblings having to keep quiet about their brother being gone all this time. It's like the plot of a film, and yet, sadly this is real life and the life of a little 6 year old. Poor wee soul.
I expect we'll never know exactly what happened to Kyran, and this man's suicide has given Kyran's mum a great scapegoat if she ever gets charged. The whole thing is absolutely mindblowing and so hard to believe. Imagine Kryan's siblings having to keep quiet about their brother being gone all this time. It's like the plot of a film, and yet, sadly this is real life and the life of a little 6 year old. Poor wee soul.
Badirene
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Whatever has happened in this case it has truly exposed the lack of accountability in child safety here in Ireland. How was this child taken out of school and no follow up done, it is not good enough for someone to claim that the child is now in a school in another jurisdiction, a policy must be put into place to follow that up, surely any new school would need information on the child now attending, reports on academic ability, any additional educational support they may need, if they are a shy or outgoing kid to help them settle somewhere new, any safeguarding concerns a school may have about the parent or guardian?
The grandmother only reported this little boy missing as Tusla advised her they were going to report it to the gardai, why would Tusla give the grandmother a heads up about what was going to be happen and allow her time to craft her version of events first?
Then we have the gardai issuing a statement that they couldn't contact the school to confirm when the child stopped attending? I mean it's a school, a brick and mortar building staffed Monday to Friday, just drive down to the place and insist on speaking to someone? Schools are not know for standing up and walking about the last time I looked.
Kyran has been failed at every turn by people who should have acted with urgency to protect him or at least find out what happened to him.
The grandmother only reported this little boy missing as Tusla advised her they were going to report it to the gardai, why would Tusla give the grandmother a heads up about what was going to be happen and allow her time to craft her version of events first?
Then we have the gardai issuing a statement that they couldn't contact the school to confirm when the child stopped attending? I mean it's a school, a brick and mortar building staffed Monday to Friday, just drive down to the place and insist on speaking to someone? Schools are not know for standing up and walking about the last time I looked.
Kyran has been failed at every turn by people who should have acted with urgency to protect him or at least find out what happened to him.
Duchesspink
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The whole case is very strange. The mother and grandparents, anyone who had contact with that child should be pulled in for questioning
Whilst there isn't a real update in this case, I thought I'd post this article which sort of summarises the situation in this case right now. I had wondered why the family had eventually concocted the story of Kyran and his mum being missing after leaving his grandmother's house in August, but it seems that they were forced to do this because Tulsa told the family that they were about to report Kyran as missing to the Gardai as they hadn't been able to locate him for months. So, the family must have decided to pretend that he was missing from August, only that story soon unravelled as the Gardai tried to work out exactly when he'd last been seen by outside parties.
The article mentions, as I did the other day, that Maguire's death now gives Kyran's mother a possible handy scapegoat for Kyran's disappearance, although she has not yet gone down that route. I guess without Kyran's body, and not knowing if it will ever be found, everything is still up in the air.
It really seems crazy that although it's obvious that poor Kyran is no longer alive, the Gardai are stumped as to what charges they can bring against the mother and grandmother.
The article mentions, as I did the other day, that Maguire's death now gives Kyran's mother a possible handy scapegoat for Kyran's disappearance, although she has not yet gone down that route. I guess without Kyran's body, and not knowing if it will ever be found, everything is still up in the air.
It really seems crazy that although it's obvious that poor Kyran is no longer alive, the Gardai are stumped as to what charges they can bring against the mother and grandmother.
Duchesspink
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Haven't people been charged with murder in the absence of a body before?Whilst there isn't a real update in this case, I thought I'd post this article which sort of summarises the situation in this case right now. I had wondered why the family had eventually concocted the story of Kyran and his mum being missing after leaving his grandmother's house in August, but it seems that they were forced to do this because Tulsa told the family that they were about to report Kyran as missing to the Gardai as they hadn't been able to locate him for months. So, the family must have decided to pretend that he was missing from August, only that story soon unravelled as the Gardai tried to work out exactly when he'd last been seen by outside parties.
The article mentions, as I did the other day, that Maguire's death now gives Kyran's mother a possible handy scapegoat for Kyran's disappearance, although she has not yet gone down that route. I guess without Kyran's body, and not knowing if it will ever be found, everything is still up in the air.
It really seems crazy that although it's obvious that poor Kyran is no longer alive, the Gardai are stumped as to what charges they can bring against the mother and grandmother.