Killing Eve Season 4

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I am so pissed off with that ending, that is such a disservice to the not only the actors who have spent years honing and creating these two brilliantly complex wonderful women, but it’s such a disservice to the fans too. Villanelle - such an interesting, gritty, complex character who has provided us with so many gasps and hilarious moments and so many gruesome deaths - that death was not it. Not the death she deserved. Though it’s clever, killing eve - killing villanelle killed eve basically. That shot with the hands where it was basically the the destruction of Eve was very clever.

Feel like I have so many questions about the show and the ending and like what was the point of Pam? Why did she kill Konstantin? Was Konstantin part of the twelve or was Carolyn? Villanelle didn’t kill twelve people on that boat… What was the point of that jesus storyline? I would’ve so preferred this series if they’d had more of Villaneve together going after the twelve etc.
 
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I wish phoebe Waller would have come back and wrote the end season! She gave us so much season 1 and that’s why we fell in love with the characters.
Too many loose ends wasn’t tied up. Like Pam? What’s the point in her. Was konstantin Kennys Dad? Villanelle spared carolyn then she gave orders to kill her. Does Carolyn think Eve is dead also???
 
JodieB12 said:
I wish phoebe Waller would have come back and wrote the end season! She gave us so much season 1 and that’s why we fell in love with the characters.
Too many loose ends wasn’t tied up. Like Pam? What’s the point in her. Was konstantin Kennys Dad? Villanelle spared carolyn then she gave orders to kill her. Does Carolyn think Eve is dead also???
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Why did Irina Konstantin’s daughter randomly make an appearance by voice
 
True I thought something would come of the Irina thing. Really really enjoyed series 1 and 2 like everyone else and feel a bit underwhelmed by the ending. At least we got the momentary cute parts of Eve and Villanelle lol. Acting, filming and soundtrack are all still amazing though.
 
Just finished this. Pointless storyline which went nowhere, characters introduced for no reason, going nowhere. I'm so disappointed in what they did to Eve this series. She was totally superfluous for the most part, and it turned out the only reason she was there was because she was in love with Vilanelle, like some rap Bonnie and Clyde.

JodieB12 said:
I wish phoebe Waller would have come back and wrote the end season! She gave us so much season 1 and that’s why we fell in love with the characters.
Too many loose ends wasn’t tied up. Like Pam? What’s the point in her. Was konstantin Kennys Dad? Villanelle spared carolyn then she gave orders to kill her. Does Carolyn think Eve is dead also???
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I thought it was established in a previous series that Konstantin was Kenny dad? The only good character for me was Fiona Shaw as Carolyn. The others were Jodie Comer and Sandra Oh trying gamely to redeem their characters from the terrible script. Lesser actors wouldn't have been able to do it.
 
LoopyLou47 said:
I thought it was established in a previous series that Konstantin was Kenny dad?
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They never confirmed it, but it was hinted at. You’ve reminded me of a really funny tweet from around that time.

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What happened to the girl who used to work with Eve? She was in the flashback scene but I can't remember her name or if she had a proper exit.

Loved the Bill references and seeing Nico again though. Reminders of a much better show!
 
Ugh, that was a mess of a season. I thought it was funny there wasn't as many promos on it, now I know why. The actress who played Gunn is so hot though, character's not so hot. A lot of the new characters really didn't need to be introduced this season anyways. I found it completely pointless to bring Irina back over the phone and not have her show up on screen. Yusuf and Gunn, I guess they were put in there to make Villaneve a point but... I don't think they were ever the endgame, at least season 1 establishes that they could never be in a healthy relationship. But, hey, you killed almost every queer character with a spoken word on screen (pretty much everyone except Gunn, and well, if you count Eve but frankly all of that has pretty much destroyed her anyways). The tarot part was so cringe though, like 'Death' in tarot doesn't usually refer to a person's actual death... I think we could've done without it.
 
JusteUnClou said:
Ugh, that was a mess of a season. I thought it was funny there wasn't as many promos on it, now I know why. The actress who played Gunn is so hot though, character's not so hot. A lot of the new characters really didn't need to be introduced this season anyways. I found it completely pointless to bring Irina back over the phone and not have her show up on screen. Yusuf and Gunn, I guess they were put in there to make Villaneve a point but... I don't think they were ever the endgame, at least season 1 establishes that they could never be in a healthy relationship. But, hey, you killed almost every queer character with a spoken word on screen (pretty much everyone except Gunn, and well, if you count Eve but frankly all of that has pretty much destroyed her anyways). The tarot part was so cringe though, like 'Death' in tarot doesn't usually refer to a person's actual death... I think we could've done without it.
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The tarot scene! A load of rubbish! They nicked their camper van. So what?
 
Sprezza said:
What happened to the girl who used to work with Eve? She was in the flashback scene but I can't remember her name or if she had a proper exit.

Loved the Bill references and seeing Nico again though. Reminders of a much better show!
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Elena. She had left by the start of series 2, I think Kenny said the job was too violent for her?
I liked her, she was in one of the best episodes, where Villanelle is chasing Frank in the countryside, and he says he‘s “running AND crying!”.
 
JusteUnClou said:
Ugh, that was a mess of a season. I thought it was funny there wasn't as many promos on it, now I know why. The actress who played Gunn is so hot though, character's not so hot. A lot of the new characters really didn't need to be introduced this season anyways. I found it completely pointless to bring Irina back over the phone and not have her show up on screen. Yusuf and Gunn, I guess they were put in there to make Villaneve a point but... I don't think they were ever the endgame, at least season 1 establishes that they could never be in a healthy relationship. But, hey, you killed almost every queer character with a spoken word on screen (pretty much everyone except Gunn, and well, if you count Eve but frankly all of that has pretty much destroyed her anyways). The tarot part was so cringe though, like 'Death' in tarot doesn't usually refer to a person's actual death... I think we could've done without it.
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Yesss that pissed me off so much!! Even people who aren't into tarot know death doesn't mean literal death! It was such a lame dun dun dunnn moment 😅
 
Now I’ve finally watched the finale the whole way through; I can give my two pence…
Season 4 has been an absolute let down from start to finish. Just nowhere near good enough. I’ve read a lot of people down talking S3, but I thought it was great (apart from what I’ve previously stated; BASTIDS KILLED OFF KENNY! 😩). As I said earlier in the thread, what’s really bugged me is the lack of continuity from the end of S3 to this one. The finale felt rushed, and a hugely anticlimactic. Who the frig were The 12?! What was their motivation?! Why were they a bunch of faceless nobody’s, who just got banged round the head by Villanelle in the end?! Who ordered Kenny’s death?! Who killed Kenny?! Is Carolyn the head of the 12, a double agent? I’ve read theories that the note from Konstantin said that Villanelle killed Kenny, which was Carolyn’s motivation to get her bumped off. What I feel I could decipher, is similarly to S2, Carolyn ‘used’ Villanelle to do the dirty work - The 12 are done away with, Carolyn can return to MI6 triumphant, whilst also getting ‘revenge’ for Kenny’s death. Who pulled the trigger on Villanelle? Was it Pam? Though it looked like she turned down the job… What was the point of Helene?! She was meant to be the big baddy.. her death was naff. I fully expected that we wouldn’t get a happy ending, but I wanted something more than a sequence that lasted, like three minutes, Eve screaming and Carolyn saying ‘jolly good’.
Aaarrgh so many questions!!! Such a shame, the season was set up perfectly from the previous one. A hugely below par ending to what was a very clever, and hugely enjoyable show.
 
Calmyourtitsdown said:
Now I’ve finally watched the finale the whole way through; I can give my two pence…
Season 4 has been an absolute let down from start to finish. Just nowhere near good enough. I’ve read a lot of people down talking S3, but I thought it was great (apart from what I’ve previously stated; BASTIDS KILLED OFF KENNY! 😩). As I said earlier in the thread, what’s really bugged me is the lack of continuity from the end of S3 to this one. The finale felt rushed, and a hugely anticlimactic. Who the frig were The 12?! What was their motivation?! Why were they a bunch of faceless nobody’s, who just got banged round the head by Villanelle in the end?! Who ordered Kenny’s death?! Who killed Kenny?! Is Carolyn the head of the 12, a double agent? I’ve read theories that the note from Konstantin said that Villanelle killed Kenny, which was Carolyn’s motivation to get her bumped off. What I feel I could decipher, is similarly to S2, Carolyn ‘used’ Villanelle to do the dirty work - The 12 are done away with, Carolyn can return to MI6 triumphant, whilst also getting ‘revenge’ for Kenny’s death. Who pulled the trigger on Villanelle? Was it Pam? Though it looked like she turned down the job… What was the point of Helene?! She was meant to be the big baddy.. her death was naff. I fully expected that we wouldn’t get a happy ending, but I wanted something more than a sequence that lasted, like three minutes, Eve screaming and Carolyn saying ‘jolly good’.
Aaarrgh so many questions!!! Such a shame, the season was set up perfectly from the previous one. A hugely below par ending to what was a very clever, and hugely enjoyable show.
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I'm glad other people have these questions 😅 I thought some stuff might have gone over my head cos I wasn't paying meticulous attention to the plot but it seems like neither were the writers.
 
Calmyourtitsdown said:
Is Carolyn the head of the 12, a double agent? I’ve read theories that the note from Konstantin said that Villanelle killed Kenny, which was Carolyn’s motivation to get her bumped off.
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That would have made the ending a tiny bit more bearable, but like @Sprezza says, it’s like the writers weren’t really paying attention to the plot.

I‘m so disappointed in the way this season played out. All the religious imagery around Villanelle just felt tacked on instead of something with a bit more thought.
The writer, Laura Neale seemed to think that the ending should have been a relief to Eve, but then why would you show her and V get to a point where they could actually make sense as a couple?

I have to admit I became so fond of Villanelle over this last series, so I was maybe a bit over the top upset about her ending, but it’s good to see that a lot of people agree it was badly done.

I thought that the thing with the tarot scene was that it was intentional that the woman was so bad at reading them. She reminded me a lot of Carolyn’s daughter, Geraldine.


The only spin of I would like to see is of Martin. I loved him, it could make a great show, with him going about his life, listening to the Archers, his little milk things, calmly giving therapy to the Broadmoor inmates.
 
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