James and Maeva Made in Chelsea

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Apart from the whole thing being deeply unpleasant to watch , it’s incredibly troubling. A couple of things spring to mind. M is desperately insecure, needs to track James, needs to be main focus of attention. And more worryingly displays all the signs of PND. There is no physical, financial or logistical reason that child couldn’t come on holiday . She simply doesn’t want him there . And either Grandmothers should be seeing a huge red flag and instead of facilitating her illness actually getting help x Desperate for that poor little boy x
 
I just checked how many weeks he was and he was 10 weeks old when they left him, 11 on Wednesday.
he was 4 weeks old when they dumped him for 10 days the first time.

So 20 days out of 77, plus the weekend in London and any we don’t know about because what’s the likelihood covid was their first night he was without either of them? Knowing what we know about them now? And other nights away they have not shared? Even the ones we do know about are a third of his entire lifetime.

I know grandma may think he’s better with her than a professional nanny but honestly if it were me I just couldn’t be involved with enabling this behaviour. Makes me wonder if the entire family just walks all over granny.
 
Tofino said:
I know grandma may think he’s better with her than a professional nanny but honestly if it were me I just couldn’t be involved with enabling this behaviour. Makes me wonder if the entire family just walks all over granny.
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I don't know how to say this without sounding derogatory but...that woman looks like she's suffered.

In the way of she puts up with a lot of sh-t.
 
I actually quite liked Maeva on Mic, always hated James but as a mother, seeing this side of her has completely changed my opinion.
Who the f**k goes off partying when your son is 2 months old after you have already had to spend 10 days away from him due to covid. There is clearly no connection between her and the baby.
As someone very rightly pointed out, she can't even ski due to having a csection a mere 8 weeks ago so why didn't she stay at home and bond with her beautiful baby and let James enjoy some time with his family.
I am really struggling to wrap my head around it or find any kind of validation for her behaviour!
 
Wow what a bleeping witch she comes across as in those videos, pure venom, she's raging. Poor baby. Tomorrow I'm having a night away without my daughter, she's 2 1/2 and it will be my 3rd ever night away from her! I can't fathom all this being apart from their tiny newborn I just can't get my head around it. She's acting like she had no option but to go on holiday!
 
Saw this comment on her latest post and it’s actually very true. A low income mother would not afford a trip abroad but imagine if she went to stay with friends and left baby with grandparent. Not sure about social services but I’m sure health visitor would get involved in some way. Which is actually right because it’s such huge red flags for bonding issues/PPD but seems rich people/higher class are just not held to the same standards. It was the same with Louise Thompson.

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It’s so so true . I have just seen them smooching on balcony on IG. He is as culpable as her. He never wanted to be a father & she knows it. This is all to keep her man , the baby is a trap and a pay check. It doesn’t mean she won’t end up bonding , and therefore functioning normally but you can’t turn back these crucial weeks . They are SO immature as a couple . Heartbreaking actually x
 
Tofino said:
Saw this comment on her latest post and it’s actually very true. A low income mother would not afford a trip abroad but imagine if she went to stay with friends and left baby with grandparent. Not sure about social services but I’m sure health visitor would get involved in some way. Which is actually right because it’s such huge red flags for bonding issues/PPD but seems rich people/higher class are just not held to the same standards. It was the same with Louise Thompson.

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An interesting take but not based on any facts. Social services have about 1 million things which are more important and yet their caseloads don’t allow for, than to be ‘knocking on doors asking if someone is fit to parent’. Health visitors aren’t even mandatory. NHS midwifery ends at one post partum check up.
What about parents who aren’t together and split their arrangement 50/50 by that logic?
Rich parents outsource their childcare which is legal. Low income mothers, if they can’t manage, are better off passing on childcare to someone who is willing to nurture their child, which has a less tragic outcome than some cases where young children have been abandoned in favour of partying.
So whilst I’m not defending Maeva and can’t correlate to her AT ALL, I do think that IGer doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
 
Notredamn said:
An interesting take but not based on any facts. Social services have about 1 million things which are more important and yet their caseloads don’t allow for, than to be ‘knocking on doors asking if someone is fit to parent’. Health visitors aren’t even mandatory. NHS midwifery ends at one post partum check up.
What about parents who aren’t together and split their arrangement 50/50 by that logic?
Rich parents outsource their childcare which is legal. Low income mothers, if they can’t manage, are better off passing on childcare to someone who is willing to nurture their child, which has a less tragic outcome than some cases where young children have been abandoned in favour of partying.
So whilst I’m not defending Maeva and can’t correlate to her AT ALL, I do think that IGer doesn’t know what she’s talking about.
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I’d be shocked if a family court would grant 50/50 access to a two month old. And again I think questions would need to be asked about the bond with the mother / PPD if the mum is happy to give her up for 50% of the time.

I don’t actually know what health visitors etc can or cannot do if they suspect serious issues with bonding/PPD (assuming parents not opted out). I know services stretched beyond anything so I’m talking in an ideal world where there are enough resources, not the current state social/health services are in.

I’m not sure if emotional neglect of children is even on the radar of these services but I wish it was taken more seriously given the trauma it causes and the huge detrimental effects it can have on people for the rest of their lives.

And whilst a struggling mum passing the baby off to another family member is of course better than completely abandoning like the tragic case of Asiah (Verephy Kudy) the emotional damage it causes is still significant.
 
I think the term benign neglect is appropriate here. So technically & legally the baby is safe , well & cared for . Emotionally it is abandoned in favour of lifestyle choices. Nothing you can “ complain” about , except the poor child who will grow up with a narcissistic mother, be sent to boarding school and live an emotionally stunted life . ( I am generalising, some people are totally unscathed by this kind of upbringing ) x
 
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