Jack Monroe #164 I say, has anybody seen my girlfriend's scarf?

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where to start? Jack was away (but still here)

she managed to piss off just about everybody, including the canal, with her constant hat changing and metamorphosing.

her ridiculous money saving tips appear to have made it to book form.

tragic events occurred during the week, but instead of reading the room she posts about her 'girlfriends' missing scarf, which she bought, for vast sums of money, (much butter) and had embroidered.

She attempted to Center herself yet again in current events, then she totally crossed the line, posting far to much detail about a persons identity and whereabouts, whilst accusing the police of inaction.

much cabal hugs and best wishes to all those triggered by her ill timed/ill judged outburst.

all new mavens, welcome and check out the wiki above (pink button) to achieve enlightenment in the ways of mackie
 
If she is being actively stalked, which she certainly implies by saying he approached her and SB just before lockdown, by someone so local that she has to walk past his house to get to her parents and who has access to a car, why in the name of all things holy did she broadcast to a couple of thousand people that she had a skip on her driveway last year?
 
Mr Beds sent me this last night - I tried, through much laughter to explain horse spunk lasagne but he didn’t get it. So I’m left wondering if Horse Spunk is a side line product this guy could go into alongside his Mares Milk? 🐴 💦

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ETA: On the back of the preview of top tips shared yesterday (with burning hair) - is there honestly going to be 200+ pages of this banal crap to read?!
 
I don't want to keep going over the story but I too was surprised at the revelation that the abuser lives so close to her. Didn't she say recently that the crappy bungalow is only a few streets away from where she grew up/her parents place? So he lives in between? Seems bleeping mad that you would rent a place right there. That's not to say she should be pushed out of where she wants to live because of him, it just seems an unlikely, albeit unfair thing to do
 
This is from her long since deleted 2012 blog - the very early days, before she had much of an audience. I'm putting it under a tag because it's long, but it contains no mention of physical attacks or abuse, for anyone worried.

This supports the idea that she is telling the truth (although I question if other aspects of her story have been embellished, as they were in the Poverty).

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It's my first post and I really did take to long and missed the thread.

Sorry it's so long but very short on laughs.

My origin story is pretty common, came for the Sali's video but stayed for the Jack threads. I haven't posted before because you lot pretty much say it all, but better than I could and god the threads move so fast.

The relief in finding you guys and this group was incredible. I was sucked in by Jack. I'm a single mum, things are better now, but we were very poor for a while, I have some similar health issues. The insidiousness of Jack's lies is that she draws you in and you relate to her struggle, but because it's based on untruths, following her eats away at your self-esteem.

Her suggestions don't work, her recipes are appalling, and the fact they're for people on a limited budget is doubly is disgusting. She's gaslighting the most vulnerable people. I've had to overcome a lot of self-hatred that came with being ill with chronic fatigue and pain. Then there were the tit doctors and, sadly, friends and family with their awful "helpful" suggestions. And then there's Jack, a so-called disability activist. Laying claim to every condition under the sun while bouncing around carrying a sideboard under each arm.

I've had to just dip in and out of the threads since Jack's revelations but I have seen how careful and caring people have been with each other. I love this group.

I have so many questions about what she posted, and why now and so on and so on. But like a lot of what she does on Twitter it's such a sticky web, and I think any attempt to interrogate the facts feels like a bit of trap. I want her to get help for this but I don't actually want to give her any mental or emotional energy in this way. I don't know why I find it painful and I'm sorry if I've upset anyone with this suggestion. I'm not suggesting that anyone has overstepped a line. And I'm aware in the time it's taking me to post this, the conversation has probably moved on.

I've had so much fun reading these threads. I tried to stop a while ago, because TIME. But I'm always back. I'm so glad she's being held to account.

Mod edit, attempting to police is against the rules. If you have suggestions hit report to let mods know otherwise it would be a right mess with everyone saying how they think the threads should be run
 
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Cack Slumrow said:
I have just see this quote:

"When I first heard of the vigil for my friend Sarah Everard, I was looking forward to attending. But I won’t be -- it’s not a tribute to her anymore. Her death has been hijacked by an agenda. I don’t think Sarah would have wanted this", says Helena Edwards
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I dont think its an agenda, but its become bigger than Sarah in that it could be any one of us. Its gained momentum because this is a real risk for women every day.

I skimmed her friends letter and it was abit notallmen tbh.
 
Cack Slumrow said:
I have just see this quote:

"When I first heard of the vigil for my friend Sarah Everard, I was looking forward to attending. But I won’t be -- it’s not a tribute to her anymore. Her death has been hijacked by an agenda. I don’t think Sarah would have wanted this", says Helena Edwards
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Yes. It seems as though it may have been hijacked by the 'defund the police' movement. Nothing is sacred, everything is but an opportunity to play a political stunt -what a shameful society we have become.
 
Light references to own stalking experience and non-explicit past cases of SA

Without going back to the topic too much and because of 🔺, but I personally know of an incident in a school where nobody believed the victim(s) and years later it was rolled out again and the crimes came to the light. The teacher had died and it was awful for the victims to go through this but it still helped some of them to get some justice and the school have put more safeguarding in place. I do understand that many people don't want to bring up the past but it can help.
All of what I am saying is not exactly new findings but JM opens up a topic and does not comment on these things enough.
Many people are being believed and taken seriously and it is empowering and brings change. I wouldn't want to leave anyone in a current situation to think that all is lost.

I was stalked once, that was a long time ago and the concept of stalking wasn't even a thing back then. The difference is that it was someone my age and it cannot be compared (those things never really compare anyway), which made it less bad than an adult stalking and assaulting a child but it also made it difficult because it was seen as romantic and courtship. For many years I was deeply affected by it but I also had a lot of therapy and for quite a few years it does not interefere with my life anymore. But as with other things I wanted to get better and got all the help. Even here I am careful sharing things, I don't even share my catto pics although I would really share it with the lovely cabal.


PS: I am still laughing about the slithering python near Tower Bridge and I am sure the initials stand for Lovely Jolly Coven.
Although I have already bored you endlessly with the info that I last lived in the UK in the year 1793, I would like to stress that I was surprised to find that puddles do not only gift but also embroider.
And now get to absolute duck x
 
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First of all, my heart goes out to everyone in this thread who has been affected by all the events of this week. You're all such amazing, strong people. I know I'm more of a lurker but it makes me so happy to see the amount of love and support in the cabal ❤️
This might have already been said but Jack sharing all this information on Twitter while her stalker is A) still alive and B) seeming living near her, is so concerning to me. She's shared so much about where she lives and the places she goes and even if he's older and not an online person there's no way of knowing if he's reading the shared information or has someone informing him. I'm not trying to say she should remain silent or victim blame here but with no action having been taken against the man I worry her speaking out could be poking the bear a little?
It's things like this that make me doubt her fully story. While I do believe that she has suffered this trauma it's so hard to know where the truth ends and the exaggerations and lies begin with Jack.
At the end of the day, only Jack knows how this trauma has affected her and what her responses to it are. I just hope she gets the therapy she clearly needs and learns to stop sharing so much online. I do believe it's damaging to her, not just in this situation but with how personally she takes people disagreeing with her too. A lot of the time people are not doing it to attack her, they might not even know anything about her. They just see something they disagree with online and don't know how to engage respectfully. (Sorry, bit of a long post that went off on a slight tangent at the end there but it's been playing at my mine while I've been catching up with what's happened)
 
I'm not surprised the vigil/protest would be taken as an opportunity for others to display their unhappiness/disgruntled mood.

We're living though a pandemic, death is in focus every day, many people struggle with financial insecurity and mental health problems caused by that insecurity, we have a corrupt government that is actively trying to limit our freedoms (tbf solidarity and helping those in need aren't exactly Conservative values, so what can we expect) and the fall out from Brexit is looming. The general outlook on life is pretty shite and gloomy.

Globally, there will always be more protests and unrest in such circumstances. This is a time where any gathering has the potential to become a riot (not that last night was a riot per se of course). Any protest or gathering right now could get out of control easily because people are fed up with so much that is wrong and unfair.

Of course, that's sad for Sarah's family and friends, I'm not saying it's a good thing if people hijack her case. But it's not surprising at all, given the general mood in the country anyway.
 
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