Inside Missguided: Made in Manchester - Channel 4

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I think ITS seemed more immature as a business, in terms of how long it had been going, there seemed to be a small number of staff overall, maybe less experienced but at the same time their roles seemed more broad.

missguided seemed surprisingly large, with so many staff and layers of manager. Overheads must be massive for a business that runs on fine margins. and is making a loss. Not sure where they get their investment from given Nitin is the sole owner
 
There’s an article on The Times (I think) that’s behind a paywall but someone had posted some of on insta, basically saying his dad actually owns Missguided, so I’m guessing that’s where the money came from. He seemed to drop himself in it about tax avoidance too.

The way the doc strives to show the business is ran by ‘boss babes’ and there’s ‘not enough dick’ in the office is pretty gross when you delve into their gender pay gap.

It must have seemed very aspirational to young women and girls who want to work in the fashion industry. Particularly showing Treasure’s home and background.

I still do not understand what the production team were thinking.
 
Did anyone get the push notification from PLT when it’s been on air? Something along the lines of ‘don’t like what you’re seeing on TV? Us neither. Check out our new range out now’

PLT massively take the piss out of MG and this is another example of it. That’s cheeky and disruptive - not wrapping another car!
 
Runningtap said:
Did anyone get the push notification from PLT when it’s been on air? Something along the lines of ‘don’t like what you’re seeing on TV? Us neither. Check out our new range out now’

PLT massively take the piss out of MG and this is another example of it. That’s cheeky and disruptive - not wrapping another car!
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That's a really tacky marketing ploy though. Cringe and catty. Bit like their employees.
 
Interesting how some of these girls have such high end job. The social media girl for example, she got 3 C’s at A Levels and didn’t get a degree. She did an apprenticeship at google, how does this even happen? Then worked with new look, missguided and gloosybox. More of who you know IMO.

Also, Treasure will not be there forever. They’ll get rid when she’s a bit older and replace her for some other young, trashy girl. I wonder if she thinks she can walk into any other job with her attitude and language.
I sound so boring 😂
 
Bobbleowl90 said:
Interesting how some of these girls have such high end job. The social media girl for example, she got 3 C’s at A Levels and didn’t get a degree. She did an apprenticeship at google, how does this even happen? Then worked with new look, missguided and gloosybox. More of who you know IMO.

Also, Treasure will not be there forever. They’ll get rid when she’s a bit older and replace her for some other young, trashy girl. I wonder if she thinks she can walk into any other job with her attitude and language.
I sound so boring 😂
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To be fair, I don't have a degree. In fact, I didn't even finish my A'Levels.

I'm 43 and on my 12 GCSEs I had a 10 year career in IT, starting on a helpdesk and then going into a specialism.

I then changed careers 11 years ago, moved into Marketing, PR and comms. I'm now a senior manager in this field.

Outside my day job I write a regular, magazine column and host a radio show.

For me, a lack of degree hasn't held me back. I'm outgoing, friendly, a quick learner, don't think any job's below me, confident and good at winning people round. Oh I'm modest too. ;)

Jokes aside, confidence, gift of the gab, networking and hard work can get you far without qualifications.

Likewise, my partner only has one GCSE due to farting about at school. After years of dead end jobs, he took a job as a pot wash part time and worked his way up to head chef in 6 years, which he loves!
 
Miss Demeanour said:
To be fair, I don't have a degree. In fact, I didn't even finish my A'Levels.

I'm 43 and on my 12 GCSEs I had a 10 year career in IT, starting on a helpdesk and then going into a specialism.

I then changed careers 11 years ago, moved into Marketing, PR and comms. I'm now a senior manager in this field.

Outside my day job I write a regular, magazine column and host a radio show.

For me, a lack of degree hasn't held me back. I'm outgoing, friendly, a quick learner, don't think any job's below me, confident and good at winning people round. Oh I'm modest too. ;)

Jokes aside, confidence, gift of the gab, networking and hard work can get you far without qualifications.

Likewise, my partner only has one GCSE due to farting about at school. After years of dead end jobs, he took a job as a pot wash part time and worked his way up to head chef in 6 years, which he loves!
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I can understand that at your age, but a 21 year old it’s very rare nowadays!
 
Miss Demeanour said:
To be fair, I don't have a degree. In fact, I didn't even finish my A'Levels.

I'm 43 and on my 12 GCSEs I had a 10 year career in IT, starting on a helpdesk and then going into a specialism.

I then changed careers 11 years ago, moved into Marketing, PR and comms. I'm now a senior manager in this field.

Outside my day job I write a regular, magazine column and host a radio show.

For me, a lack of degree hasn't held me back. I'm outgoing, friendly, a quick learner, don't think any job's below me, confident and good at winning people round. Oh I'm modest too. ;)

Jokes aside, confidence, gift of the gab, networking and hard work can get you far without qualifications.

Likewise, my partner only has one GCSE due to farting about at school. After years of dead end jobs, he took a job as a pot wash part time and worked his way up to head chef in 6 years, which he loves!
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I mean, you said it yourself, you started at a help desk - the rest is a bit irrelevant and a little bit braggy just to say you’ve not got a degree 😂 the point is those girls are (I assume) the same age as you when you were at the help desk and they’re ‘executives’ and ‘directors’ etc -I think that was the original point - theyve gone right from their A Levels into these kinds of jobs which is baffling.
 
Bobbleowl90 said:
I can understand that at your age, but a 21 year old it’s very rare nowadays!
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I was a retail manager at 19. One of the youngest managers. But yeah, I guess it's rare rather than a norm.

Laur91 said:
I mean, you said it yourself, you started at a help desk - the rest is a bit irrelevant and a little bit braggy just to say you’ve not got a degree 😂 the point is those girls are (I assume) the same age as you when you were at the help desk and they’re ‘executives’ and ‘directors’ etc -I think that was the original point - theyve gone right from their A Levels into these kinds of jobs which is baffling.
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Yep, started on a Helpdesk was very low paid and just answering the phone at the start, not even resolving issues, just logging them.

It's not "braggy" as you suggest. I'm merely making a counter-point to the post that suggested that you need a degree to be successful.

And no, I was in a managerial role within 18 months of starting my Helpdesk job, at the age these girls are in the show. This was actually my first office job too, as I'd only worked in retail before that.
 
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I suppose they might be an social media executive or head of creative at missguided but probably wouldn’t translate to the same title elsewhere, say in Next or River Island where things are more formal and corporate (and professional) behind the scenes. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not bothered about people needing a degree to do a job, but the requirements of a fast fashion online retailer is going to be different to larger retailers. I imagine at Missguided they want people with crazy ideas who talk about being a boss babe etc but whilst that’s all very funny to watch and might make it an interesting place to work, that business is not making money. So long term, what’s the prospects? Surely there will come a point where they need to trim more costs or get outside investment which will reduce Nitins ownership and may come with conditions like selection of certain positions being made by the investment firm. Quite a few people might find themselves redundant and harder to find a job because the Missguided way doesn’t translate too well to the way other businesses do things. Like I’m not treasure would suit an environment where she wasn’t a big fish in a small pond and can eff and jeff her way through the day.
 
Laur91 said:
I mean, you said it yourself, you started at a help desk - the rest is a bit irrelevant and a little bit braggy just to say you’ve not got a degree 😂 the point is those girls are (I assume) the same age as you when you were at the help desk and they’re ‘executives’ and ‘directors’ etc -I think that was the original point - theyve gone right from their A Levels into these kinds of jobs which is baffling.
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From what I understand the structure isn’t actually as it was portrayed: Treasure in fact doesn’t report into Nitin or a Director but is actually a few layers down. I was interested that they made a big deal of the Google employment which seems to be an internship and she didn’t stick around for very long...

In terms of their progression it’s typical of a fast growing start up: a core team live and breathe it from the start, as the business grows and adds more resource that team almost get promoted by default and learn as they go. Often due to the fast paced of the business / industry they often receive very little formal training (ie basic management of people or how to communicate appropriately / effectively with a wider audience) and this showed in the programme. I agree that outside of another similar company / culture they’d have to take a step down in the hierarchy.

Readread said:
That's a really tacky marketing ploy though. Cringe and catty. Bit like their employees.
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Indeed: but it’s the perfect fit for their target audience. Plus a push notification is cheap as 🍟
 
Binge watched this over the weekend, and OMG, what a trip it was. My thoughts:

1. I’ve lived a very sheltered life when it comes to drugs, but there’s no way Treasure’s long working days aren’t massively coke-fuelled. Also, is Treasure her birth name or is it something like Tracey?

2. Nitin was like a personality-free zone. I was amazed at his ability to keep a completely blank, expressionless face on 😄

3. You can just tell the working culture is cutthroat and toxic. The way the senior management spoke to the junior buyers was shocking. I got the impression that an employee’s poor performance was considered a personal failure, and not a failure of their supervisors (whose job it is to make sure they know WTF they’re doing). I felt so sorry for the new assistant buyer who genuinely seemed stressed and anxious to the point of misery. When she started to cry and said “I don’t know why I’m upset, I love my job” I thought it was interesting that she didn’t say they were happy tears. She wasn’t happy.
 
maytoseptember said:
3. You can just tell the working culture is cutthroat and toxic. The way the senior management spoke to the junior buyers was shocking. I got the impression that an employee’s poor performance was considered a personal failure, and not a failure of their supervisors (whose job it is to make sure they know WTF they’re doing). I felt so sorry for the new assistant buyer who genuinely seemed stressed and anxious to the point of misery. When she started to cry and said “I don’t know why I’m upset, I love my job” I thought it was interesting that she didn’t say they were happy tears. She wasn’t happy.
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Omg this bit reminded so much of Emily in The Devil Wears Prada where’s she’s like “I love my job, I love my job” when she’s teetering on the edge of a breakdown.
 
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