Eastenders #11 Mick drowns at Dover as 2022 is nearly over

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Zack needs to be less picky about who he sleeps with. He only sleeps with girls who have phone numbers that begin with 07700 900###

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I feel like they are doing the Lily being pregnant storyline all wrong. Why is she talking to Stacey and Martin like they’re something she’s stepped in and why is Stacey walking on eggshells around her??? I know times have changed but my parents literally would have knocked me into next week if I spoke to them like that!
 
Laika1234 said:
I know we’re supposed to think Stacey is the supportive mum but I nearly think she’s taking it to a martyrdom level. I get she wants Lily to trust her but she’s being ridiculously understanding almost saintly about her 12 year old being pregnant.
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How should she be, ideally?
(Not getting at you, just curious as to how you think parents should approach a situation like that)
 
dee_mc said:
How should she be, ideally?
(Not getting at you, just curious as to how you think parents should approach a situation like that)
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It’s a fair question but I feel like most people would react a bit more frantically or push a termination. Her whole I don’t want her to do anything she regrets/I won’t say who the father is as it’s lilys choice stance is a bit martyry. I’d get it more if Lily was even 16/17 but at 12?? It’s a literal child.
 
Laika1234 said:
It’s a fair question but I feel like most people would react a bit more frantically or push a termination. Her whole I don’t want her to do anything she regrets/I won’t say who the father is as it’s lilys choice stance is a bit martyry. I’d get it more if Lily was even 16/17 but at 12?? It’s a literal child.
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this is my feeling on it too. she (and a lot of other characters actually) are acting like lilly is an older teenager - she’s literally 12 years old! martin’s reaction has been the most “believable” from my pov.
 
Laika1234 said:
It’s a fair question but I feel like most people would react a bit more frantically or push a termination. Her whole I don’t want her to do anything she regrets/I won’t say who the father is as it’s lilys choice stance is a bit martyry. I’d get it more if Lily was even 16/17 but at 12?? It’s a literal child.
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I suppose the Stacey character is very much informed by her own experience of having an unreliable mum (due to mental illness) and being pushed into having an abortion herself when she was 19 or 20.
At 12, Lily is a literal child and needs to be treated sensitively at the best of times, never mind when she's just realised she's pregnant. If I had a 12 year old pregnant kid I'd be bleeping terrified of saying the wrong thing, scarring her for life and ruining my relationship with her. In that respect, the way Stacey has reacted rings true for me but I think I'd have screamed and cried to someone about it (Jean, Martin, a mate) as a form of release.
I think any parent would dread finding themselves in Stacey's situation but as a non parent, I'd question the wisdom of appearing frantic in front of the child, or pushing a termination as the only/obvious option. I suppose if I was in her position I'd hope to talk to the child more about her options and their possible ramifications. I'd hope to have explained the financial constraints to her too (rather than have her overhear that conversation) but at the end of the day I suppose Eastenders are showing a storyline and not a blueprint for how we should act 😵‍💫
Good that it gets us thinking though!
 
dee_mc said:
I suppose the Stacey character is very much informed by her own experience of having an unreliable mum (due to mental illness) and being pushed into having an abortion herself when she was 19 or 20.
At 12, Lily is a literal child and needs to be treated sensitively at the best of times, never mind when she's just realised she's pregnant. If I had a 12 year old pregnant kid I'd be bleeping terrified of saying the wrong thing, scarring her for life and ruining my relationship with her. In that respect, the way Stacey has reacted rings true for me but I think I'd have screamed and cried to someone about it (Jean, Martin, a mate) as a form of release.
I think any parent would dread finding themselves in Stacey's situation but as a non parent, I'd question the wisdom of appearing frantic in front of the child, or pushing a termination as the only/obvious option. I suppose if I was in her position I'd hope to talk to the child more about her options and their possible ramifications. I'd hope to have explained the financial constraints to her too (rather than have her overhear that conversation) but at the end of the day I suppose Eastenders are showing a storyline and not a blueprint for how we should act 😵‍💫
Good that it gets us thinking though!
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To clarify I think it’s right that she’s not frantic in front of Lily but I don’t think it rings true that her response remains the same in front of Jean, Martin whoever else. It’s just not realistic she’s be that wise about it all. And her abortion experience just doesn’t feel relevant here as at 19, while still young, she was old enough to make her own choice hence her regret rings true. Lily at 12 just doesn’t have the same emotional intelligence or maturity.
 
groovygirl229 said:
I found Lily’s reactions ‘you’re talking about me’ weird when funny enough yeah they are talking about you you’re 12 and pregnant and considering keeping it?? She’s got an attitude but cmon now that’s a big topic as your patents obviously going to talk about it
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Surely as a mother Stacey would discuss the consequences of all the choices available to Lily not allow Lily to find out herself through overheard conversations. At 12 she may not understand the emotional, physical and financial side and needs guidance. Aside from Stacey they should have shown some leaflets/internet searches not just leave Lily to it.
 
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