Coronavirus Disease Outbreak COVID-19 #104

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Oohthedrama said:
Time for a new thread me thinks 😬

- Respect other people’s decisions and views,

- Disagreeing respectfully,

- Report if necessary

- Ignore users if necessary.

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Can we also clear up that people not vaccinated are not anti vaxxers too please?!

I know people can't stand to hear it because it interferes with their feelings of superiority and being at the top of a 2 tier society but they really need to accept peoples choices and medical reasoning without insisting that Susan from Windows4You call centre knows better.
 
monga said:
India had very little vaccinated and their cases dropped through natural immunity, the UK cases could be the result of close contacts not testing there’s bound to be thousands of cases going unchecked, hopefully hospital admissions won’t have a massive surge.

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The vaccine is still essential though but somehow people don't trust science.
France is doing quite good except in the places where vaccines were massively rejected (for different reasons).
French Antilles only have like 25% of double vaccinated people now (it's around 70% in the rest) and it's a total disaster (especially Martinique). They are little (temporary confined) islands so will reach a certain immunity but how many sick people and deaths which could have been avoided? And the state of hospitals...
 
EmilyChambers said:
Can we also clear up that people not vaccinated are not anti vaxxers too please?!

I know people can't stand to hear it because it interferes with their feelings of superiority and being at the top of a 2 tier society but they really need to accept peoples choices and medical reasoning without insisting that Susan from Windows4You call centre knows better.
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oh I have no time for anti vax,

I also have no time for covid vaccine “fans” who refuse to accept what the concerns around the covid vaccine is…

people need to make choices that are right for them.
 
ordinaryjelly said:
@MensaBarbie1985 I have had a negative covid test. You have completely misunderstood my situation if you think it is over a covid test.
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Given the pressures for urgent care beds I simply refuse to believe that they won't move you because you are refusing the vaccine. In my line of work we don't even ask people if they have been vaccinated as it makes no difference. Sorry but I don't believe you are giving us the full story. You categorically stated several times that you were refusing a test!
 
This thread is basically the equivalent of banging your head against a brick wall 😂

Seeing as there is a separate thread for vaccines, in relation to covid itself have heard of several people I know with it but oddly at the same time numbers are coming down. I’m thinking maybe it’s making it’s way through the areas it hasn’t really spread before…..??!
 
MensaBarbie1985 said:
Given the pressures for urgent care beds I simply refuse to believe that they won't move you because you are refusing the vaccine. In my line of work we don't even ask people if they have been vaccinated as it makes no difference. Sorry but I don't believe you are giving us the full story. You categorically stated several times that you were refusing a test!
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You must have me confused with someone else. I don't think I have ever said I refuse the test. I have opted out of the 3 times a week testing because it is superfluous, but when there is a need - ie moving hospitals I will take the test to appease their algorithm.

I am in a specialist neurological hospital in a ward with 8 beds. 3 of those beds (one is me) are occupied by people well enough to leave here but prevented from doing so because of their decision over the covid vaccine. Me who cannot go to rehab, a lady who cannot go to a nursing home and someone else who cannot go to the step down hospital. That is just a fact.

I am more than happy to leave and go to rehab, I will move on as soon as they let me, I am paralysed from the belly button down and cannot walk, so going home is not an option. For now, I lay here until someone sees sense.
 
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@MensaBarbie1985 the thread shut before I could reply.

I was saying how the Hep B jab can't be argued. Many NHS staff don't even get near an operating theatre, plus the Hep B jab actually stops you catching it, unlike the covid jab.
If as NHS staff you decide not to take the Hep B jab then you have so many other options on where you can be deployed, unlike care staff.

I understand how bed blocking works, and that will only get worse if the care sector loses the estimated 30% of its staff. They are making a legal choice in taking a mediation, as NHS can with Hep B.
So my point remains that one person from tattle isn't going to make that situation worse. The government are doing a good enough job of that making this situation happen.
 
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ordinaryjelly said:
You must have me confused with someone else. I don't think I have ever said I refuse the test. I have opted out of the 3 times a week testing because it is superfluous, but when there is a need - ie moving hospitals I will take the test to appease their algorithm.

I am in a specialist neurological hospital in a ward with 8 beds. 3 of those beds (one is me) are occupied by people well enough to leave here but prevented from doing so because of their decision over the covid vaccine. Me who cannot go to rehab, a lady who cannot go to a nursing home and someone else who cannot go to the step down hospital. That is just a fact.

I am more than happy to leave and go to rehab, I will move on as soon as they let me, I am paralysed from the belly button down and cannot walk, so going home is not an option. For now, I lay here until someone sees sense.
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maybe the rehab centres have protocols they have to follow , it’s just like visiting is resuming tomoro in some nhs trusts but visitors can only attend if they are double jabbed
 
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maybe the rehab centres have protocols they have to follow , it’s just like visiting is resuming tomoro in some nhs trusts but visitors can only attend if they are double jabbed
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Once you have been in hospital here for more than 14 days two different people are allowed to visit you up to 3 x a week for an hour at a time, they just have to provide a negative lateral flow and book an appointment.

Disgusting if some places are only allowing double jabbed people in.
 
ordinaryjelly said:
@MensaBarbie1985 I saw your post before it was removed. It is because people refuse to believe this goes on that it is allowed to happen. As the proverb goes "there are none so blind as they that won't see".
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@ordinaryjelly I do remember you saying they intended to move you from your current ward to covid ward because you refused covid testing.
Perhaps that is what caused the confusion?
 
Unspiralled said:
Does anyone think and good has/will come from this pandemic (besides more people "waking up" or whatever)?

I like the fact that most shops have hand sanitiser available on entry and I'd like this to be part of the 'new normal'.
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Hopefully people have learned some basic hygiene manners - washing hands, covering nose and mouth when sneezing/coughing and then washing hands again/using hand sanitiser. Other than that I lost my faith in people and humanity a long time ago. 🤪

 
ordinaryjelly said:
Once you have been in hospital here for more than 14 days two different people are allowed to visit you up to 3 x a week for an hour at a time, they just have to provide a negative lateral flow and book an appointment.

Disgusting if some places are only allowing double jabbed people in.
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I was a nhs nurse in England before NZ , each trusts have diff policies when it comes to visiting

beginning of the year before visiting stopped , it was only One visitor per patient and they had to book a time slot to allow only one visitor per bay at a time

and tbf I can understand the double jabs for visitors because there’s still a chance visitors can catch covid from visiting hospital so why would trusts allow risks of where unvaccinated people catch covid potentialy increasing hospital admissions
 
Unspiralled said:
Does anyone think and good has/will come from this pandemic (besides more people "waking up" or whatever)?

I like the fact that most shops have hand sanitiser available on entry and I'd like this to be part of the 'new normal'.
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I don't think sanitiser is a good thing but I do think there are positives (I hesitate to use that word) I think the last two years we have seen an influx of creativity on a fundamental level - things like Austyn F dancing in the street and where that lead, community - I know it isn't the same for all but the little pockets where Jim checks in on the neighbours and picks up groceries and how we appreciate what is on our doorstep. I live on the edge of the New Forest and so often it would have been overlooked for a week in Italy but now the beauty of what is on our door step is paramount. And selfishly covid brought us 'home' to England from overseas, at the time I didn't think that was a positive but for now it is.
 
Unspiralled said:
Does anyone think any good has/will come from this pandemic (besides more people "waking up" or whatever)?

I like the fact that most shops have hand sanitiser available on entry and I'd like this to be part of the 'new normal'.
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Wfh has its place - and not dragging your ass into open plan offices spreading cold germs around freely.

From a personal point of view due to wfh I’ve got a new job that I couldn’t have applied for before because it would be London centric, it’s now national and has opened up more opportunities.
 
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