Big Brother 2023 #4

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See hallie had a problem with not being made a big wig or middle in the CEO challenge either, mind she dressed all smart and then complained she wasn’t higher up. Now moaning about not being VIP. Except she doesn’t seem to pipe up when the decisions are being made. She didn’t say anything when they were picking VIPs just likes whinging about it after 🤷‍♀️
 
lookwhatthecatdraggedin1 said:
I don’t really know much about Hallie’s journey but will she not still be on hormone treatment in the house? Could explain the emotional outbursts maybe. Sorry if that comes across offensive 🙈
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She’s on the same hormones that I have for menopause (don’t get me started on how they are never in stock for us defunct older women) they don’t cause me to behave like an attention seeking twit. That’s just my personality 😂
 
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Thanks for this. I couldn't read the other one, it was too small :)

As predicted, Kerry wants to make (I won't say earn, after seeing her behaviour in the BB house) even more money by doing even less work (partner with a brand, etc)
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ETA: What about Snickers (you're not yourself when you're hungry) ?
Kerry has a big strop, gets given a Snickers and turns into Yinrun 🤭
 
Stephaninnie said:
See hallie had a problem with not being made a big wig or middle in the CEO challenge either, mind she dressed all smart and then complained she wasn’t higher up. Now moaning about not being VIP. Except she doesn’t seem to pipe up when the decisions are being made. She didn’t say anything when they were picking VIPs just likes whinging about it after 🤷‍♀️
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I don't like that Big Brother picked the Big Wigs and we weren't allowed to hear their decision process. Back in the day, the housemates would have been told they needed X amount of Big Wigs, X amount of middles and X amount of bottoms, and as a team they would need to decide who went where. A far better way of doing it - last week just told me that the editors wanted Yinrun, Henry and Trish to get some guaranteed airtime.
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Cinnabun said:
Confession time: I was never much of a Davina fan

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Davina was enormously biased. She was great at giving hard-hitting interviews to people who deserved it if she didn't like them, but loads of bullies were fawned all over by her and given an easy ride in their interviews because she was a fan.
She also gave crappy interviews to people who didn't deserve it at all if she didn't like them - she was a dick to Rachel in BB9, whose biggest sin was being voted as the winner by the public despite not being a massive personality.
 
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Gym&Tonic said:
Is there really an obvious divide in the house or is it just the editing?
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I think it’s a bit of both

Kerry only seems to really have her little group of friends + Henry and Jordan. Paul seems to be a bit more fluid between groups though. Not sure about Olivia and Hallie - though I’d say Hallie does make an effort with others

Tom, Jenkin and Chanelle seem to be their own little group but seem to make some effort to be friendly with others

The Jordan, Henry, Matty, Yinrun and Trish seem to have become a lot more fluid. By far the strongest friendship is Jordan and Henry as one won’t be seen without the other

Honestly if Kerry was gone I think the dynamics would change massively and the house may be less split. But I get the vibe from Jenkin and Tom that they’d take Kerry’s place
 
I suppose it’s human nature to gravitate towards the people you have the most in common with. The difference between a clique and a friendship group is that a friendship group is always open to new people joining them, a clique is suspicious and unwelcoming unless your face fits.
 
Gym&Tonic said:
I suppose it’s human nature to gravitate towards the people you have the most in common with. The difference between a clique and a friendship group is that a friendship group is always open to new people joining them, a clique is suspicious and unwelcoming unless your face fits.
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I think Kerry's group is more of a clique, and I'm not just saying that because there are characters in there that I don't like. They're the ones who have been responsible for all of the bitching so far (from what we've seen anyway), and yesterday there was a sense of 'poor Hallie being left outside with them' when on the surface it seems like Hallie has a decent enough relationship with at least a few of the ones she was outside with.

On the other hand, the Trish/Yinrun/Henry/Jordan/Matty group seem open to letting others in to their chats and don't seem to feel the need to go on about being a group all the time. I can't put my finger on whether Dylan, Noky and Zak are a part of that group or not, which speaks to it not being super cliquey in a 'you're in or you're out' sense. For example, Zak seems very close with Matty and Trish, but nominated Henry.
 
Gym&Tonic said:
I suppose it’s human nature to gravitate towards the people you have the most in common with. The difference between a clique and a friendship group is that a friendship group is always open to new people joining them, a clique is suspicious and unwelcoming unless your face fits.
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Yes, cliques will only let in ‘one of their own’ for fear of a dissenting voice tipping the scales, totally representative of insecurity.
To fill my day I would make myself out as sympathetic with a clique, get in there and cause havoc, it’s been done before and can be great viewing.
Bit more seriously.. also it’s always nice to see someone turn themselves around, become aware of what a tit they’ve been and become a better person in front of our eyes. I’ll give the example of Aishleyne in BB7, and yes, I know not everyone will agree with my choice here but she easily came to mind 😀
 
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