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femmegirly said:
Why has nobody that worked at the pub, or her ex boyfriends, or just people who knew her and Gadd at that time, spoken to the papers or even tweeted? I think it’s very strange in this day and age for someone not to have spoken out.
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Just in response to this bit, I have had a couple of Fionas in my life, and there is absolutely no way I would speak publicly about the horrible tit I know they have done, because that would immediately put me back in the firing line to be on the end of their harassment and fixation again. So I don't find this strange at all.

And to the person who mentioned peep show, I literally thought of Rainbow Rhythms as soon as I saw that scene! Lots of other parallels too. Very interesting.
 
Happydays85 said:
And if she didn’t know where he lived then how could she send him the letter that she admitted to ?
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She does say she thinks she sent it to the theatre. Registered post or recorded delivery. I am NOT putting myself through watching the interview again!
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Maiyo2020 said:
I thought exactly the same, so glad it's not just me. 😂😂😂
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I think she drawls because she is having to think on her feet. So, is buying herself time by answering slowly. And, I suspect, she doesn't actually get to speak out loud very often, or to others like this. Most of the abuse seems to be one way eg voice messages, emails, twitter etc so she is probably quite unused to social interactions such as this interview.

I've not seen the series at all, but I suspect she isn't very socially skilled, and is living in a fantasy world where the vast majority of her daily conversations, until she was exposed, were with herself.
 
I might be on my own with this opinion but I think it's awful that people are actively trying to uncover the man who SA him. He is entitled to share his story, his trauma publicly without people trying to out a huge part of his life that he is choosing to keep confidential. He gets to decide when he shares that information or if he seeks to pursue charges against the individual. People are so detached from reality whilst using social media, he's a real person. I can't imagine anyone would do that to someone they know outside of their wee rectangle. It's so intrusive.
 
I think the need to pathologise her is so odd because realistically, aren’t all people who are capable of inflicting trauma upon others mentally unwell in some way? It may not be diagnosed, but the ability to willing and knowingly stalk, harass, rape, murder, etc etc is not remotely mentally sound behaviour and of course all those who do such things are mentally unwell. Yet until there is a specific diagnosis that accounts for that wilful criminality and sociopathy, the thing these people all have in common is that their desires and needs trump those of their victims; in short, they’re selfish cunts. Fiona is a selfish bleep. Whether inspired by delusion, past trauma, neurodivergence, whatever else, at the very basis is her belief that her need to contact someone incessantly, to lord over their life, to impose herself in ways she’s not wanted, is more important than that person’s right to feel safe and at peace: she is a selfish bleep.

The interview did nothing but confirm that for me. All her lies just attempt to justify her dangerous selfish bleep view on life.
 
supers0nic said:
I might be on my own with this opinion but I think it's awful that people are actively trying to uncover the man who SA him. He is entitled to share his story, his trauma publicly without people trying to out a huge part of his life that he is choosing to keep confidential. He gets to decide when he shares that information or if he seeks to pursue charges against the individual. People are so detached from reality whilst using social media, he's a real person. I can't imagine anyone would do that to someone they know outside of their wee rectangle. It's so intrusive.
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I agree in principle but he kept claiming nobody would recognise anyone and that’s blatantly not true so I can only conclude this is actually exactly what he wanted, for people to find them and name them so he didn’t have to take that step himself.
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
I agree in principle but he kept claiming nobody would recognise anyone and that’s blatantly not true so I can only conclude this is actually exactly what he wanted, for people to find them and name them so he didn’t have to take that step himself.
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That might be true but it's still just an assumption. It's just really strange behaviour to seek out someone's grapist. The fact people feel entitled and are willing to do it. Human behaviour deeply interests me🤣
 
I worked as a psychiatrist for a few years and Fiona presents just like a lot of intelligent mentally unwell patients we had in. They present as very coherent and well spoken but the longer time you spend with them the clearer it becomes that there is some underlying fixed delusions and other psychotic symptoms. Having watched the interview it’s really interesting how she accuses HIM of stalking her and being obsessed with her. I think she probably believes that and probably really doesn’t believe anything she has done has been inappropriate. The interview was full of inconsistencies. Basically she’s not someone I’d call a reliable historian or witness. Whether everything in the show is true, I doubt that too, but I think it’s very likely that this Fiona woman was a stalker who could make someone’s life hell.
 
xcyber said:
I worked as a psychiatrist for a few years and Fiona presents just like a lot of intelligent mentally unwell patients we had in. They present as very coherent and well spoken but the longer time you spend with them the clearer it becomes that there is some underlying fixed delusions and other psychotic symptoms. Having watched the interview it’s really interesting how she accuses HIM of stalking her and being obsessed with her. I think she probably believes that and probably really doesn’t believe anything she has done has been inappropriate. The interview was full of inconsistencies. Basically she’s not someone I’d call a reliable historian or witness. Whether everything in the show is true, I doubt that too, but I think it’s very likely that this Fiona woman was a stalker who could make someone’s life hell.
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This all reinforces what RG has said - she won’t recognise herself in BR - she doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong. Has no insight into how damaging her actions can be.
 
doodlebug said:
Maybe someone’s taken her case on hoping for their big break on the back of the interview and she’s been advised not to (or prevented from) using social media in the interim…
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I think it could be a helluva risky case for a lawyer, and could go all types of wrong on discovery. Netflix seem to have done some due diligence and used the actual emails in a promo, but whether anybody had counted on the Internet sleuths going all out to track her down so quickly, it is hard to know.

I noticed on the subreddit that people are saying there is a disclaimer in the final credits that some stuff has been added for dramatisation etc, so maybe they have covered their back somewhat on the true story angle.

Who knows how this is going to pan out, but it will undoubtedly be made into a doco!
 
evie1975 said:
This all reinforces what RG has said - she won’t recognise herself in BR - she doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong. Has no insight into how damaging her actions can be.
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And why are people taking the events of the show as gospel? What if she's someone who sent a few unusually annoying texts a 100 years ago and he's blown it out of proportion for entertainment?

I don't know about her but whether anything is true or not he seems like a narcissistic attention seeker to me.
 
hehehe said:
And why are people taking the events of the show as gospel? What if she's someone who sent a few unusually annoying texts a 100 years ago and he's blown it out of proportion for entertainment?

I don't know about her but whether anything is true or not he seems like a narcissistic attention seeker to me.
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Neither of them are going to come out well from this. Which is a shame. Exploitation by global corporates needs to be tamped down. Exposure of people's private lives for likes, clicks etc needs to end. IMHO.
 
I wonder if RG actually wanted her exposed in some way, for his own safety? It must be absolutely bloody terrifying being stalked and I’m really sorry to hear so many tattlers have been affected 😔 by making this show and shining a huge glaring spotlight on FH the whole world knows about her obsession with him. Obviously a lot of the actual show was created for dramatic effect to make it gripping for viewers like the attack on the girlfriend etc. but I do believe the stalking aspect of it is real. I mean I don’t think she would suddenly become a decent/good functioning member of society but maybe by making this all public maybe it would deter her from stalking?!
 
hehehe said:
And why are people taking the events of the show as gospel? What if she's someone who sent a few unusually annoying texts a 100 years ago and he's blown it out of proportion for entertainment?

I don't know about her but whether anything is true or not he seems like a narcissistic attention seeker to me.
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The way I looked at it was - this was his truth, his true story. Trauma messes with memories and how we perceive things. I’ve said before - RG has included 4 victims - him, his dad, Teri and Martha. All vulnerable to abuse following trauma.
 
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