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MarshMallowMonster said:
Marketed as a true story.
Most damning is the sexual assault / groping, and the physical assault on Gadd’s girlfriend.

Surely NF would need to fact check any script content?

Or put a clause in such as ‘inspired by true events’ or similar?
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As many have said the issue is Netflix and its wording. In interviews Richard Gadd has said that certain things didn’t happen, he has never pretended otherwise.
 
Tabitha said:
But wouldnt it be on netflix to do their due diligence and not just take his word for it?

When you sell stories to the press, they contact the other parties to verify. Typically, in netflix docs they will often include, ‘we reached out to ____, who would not comment’.
The only difference i see here is that they believed they were not actually identifying Fiona, therefore not possibly defaming her, so they did not think it necessary to do so.
But in this case then, they should have done a better job at covering her identity.
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Given how easy it was for Joe bloggs to find out it was her, you'd think they'd look up the tweets at least and see that she was identical to the actress they had cast 🙈
 
JulieScoobyDoo said:
She didnt reply with that .She said she did alright. Why not correct him and tell him he is wrong, that she got an ordinary degree. She goes on for ages about there being a high court judge, photographic memory, she did alright, not top of the class etc but she doesnt answer the question,
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She did. She said twice that she got an ordinary degree. That should be enough for him to know that she ‘passed’. Passing is her grade. I’m guessing you aren’t scottish and like Piers, don’t understand the Scottish university system. She also asked him if he wanted to know her grades for the individual modules, to which he replied again asking for her degree grade.
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The focus on the ‘4 phones’ bugged me too. I have two phones (one for work). But I also think she was saying that she’s ‘had’ 4 phones. She said that they all stopped working at some point. Does this mean that she has one working phone and three sitting in a drawer somewhere that don’t work? I think we all have that!

I definitely think she sent him a load of emails after becoming obsessed with him after he, in part, led her on. I don’t believe she’s violent, but she got obsessed with him and couldn’t stop herself contacting him. I think he is 100% exaggerating how scared he was of her. I don’t believe she assaulted anyone or that she was sitting outside at the bus stop outside his house.

Why has nobody that worked at the pub, or her ex boyfriends, or just people who knew her and Gadd at that time, spoken to the papers or even tweeted? I think it’s very strange in this day and age for someone not to have spoken out.

I’m beginning to think it’s all staged as some social experiment. But then how would you explain the article about her stalking the mp?
 
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femmegirly said:
She did. She said twice that she got an ordinary degree. That should be enough for him to know that she ‘passed’. Passing is her grade. I’m guessing you aren’t scottish and like Piers, don’t understand the Scottish university system. She also asked him if he wanted to know her grades for the individual modules, to which he replied again asking for her degree grade.
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The focus on the ‘4 phones’ bugged me too. I have two phones (one for work). But I also think she was saying that she’s ‘had’ 4 phones. She said that they all stopped working at some point. Does this mean that she has one working phone and three sitting in a drawer somewhere that don’t work? I think we all have that!

I definitely think she sent him a load of emails after becoming obsessed with him after he, in part, led her on. I don’t believe she’s violent, but she got obsessed with him and couldn’t stop herself contacting him. I think he is 100% exaggerating how scared he was of her. I don’t believe she assaulted anyone or that she was sitting outside at the bus stop outside his house.

Why has nobody that worked at the pub, or her ex boyfriends, or just people who knew her and Gadd at that time, spoken to the papers or even tweeted? I think it’s very strange in this day and age for someone not to have spoken out.

I’m beginning to think it’s all staged as some social experiment. But then how would you explain the article about her stalking the mp?
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I’m not Scottish and had no idea the degree system up there is different to down here so to me it sounded like she didn’t answer the question.
 
Blond3g1rl said:
I’m not Scottish and had no idea the degree system up there is different to down here so to me it sounded like she didn’t answer the question.
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She just looked confused as to why he kept pressing for her grade. I think I would have been too, as I didn’t know that English unis don’t give ordinary degrees. Very unfair for him to keep that bit in the edit, as it looks like a gotcha moment but it’s really just down to Piers’ own ignorance about a fact he should have researched before speaking to her.

It’s a pretty small point, but it’s been used to cast a lack of credibility to everything else she’s saying. She could well have a photographic memory but Piers used her not specifying her uni grade as proof that she didn’t. Pretty unprofessional on Piers’ part.
 
femmegirly said:
She did. She said twice that she got an ordinary degree. That should be enough for him to know that she ‘passed’. Passing is her grade. I’m guessing you aren’t scottish and like Piers, don’t understand the Scottish university system. She also asked him if he wanted to know her grades for the individual modules, to which he replied again asking for her degree grade.
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The focus on the ‘4 phones’ bugged me too. I have two phones (one for work). But I also think she was saying that she’s ‘had’ 4 phones. She said that they all stopped working at some point. Does this mean that she has one working phone and three sitting in a drawer somewhere that don’t work? I think we all have that!

I definitely think she sent him a load of emails after becoming obsessed with him after he, in part, led her on. I don’t believe she’s violent, but she got obsessed with him and couldn’t stop herself contacting him. I think he is 100% exaggerating how scared he was of her. I don’t believe she assaulted anyone or that she was sitting outside at the bus stop outside his house.

Why has nobody that worked at the pub, or her ex boyfriends, or just people who knew her and Gadd at that time, spoken to the papers or even tweeted? I think it’s very strange in this day and age for someone not to have spoken out.

I’m beginning to think it’s all staged as some social experiment. But then how would you explain the article about her stalking the mp?
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No she said she had a phone for social media, a phone for online shopping, a phone for friends etc. I didnt take from it that she had 4 broken/unused phones in a drawer.
 
greycloud said:
No she said she had a phone for social media, a phone for online shopping, a phone for friends etc. I didnt take from it that she had 4 broken/unused phones in a drawer.
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She also said the only current technology she has was a very old smartphone because her other phone packed in the other week, before she moved.

I was certain she was saying she had multiple (between 4 and 6, she can't be sure) emails for different categories: one for friends, one for utilities, one for stalking, etc.

That's when she joked that Piers Morgan can't know that many people...
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
It’s petty and unrelated really but I am pure dying to know if she’s ever actually had an iPhone 😂
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soupmodel said:
She also said the only current technology she has was a very old smartphone because her other phone packed in the other week, before she moved.
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Interesting that her phone breaks just as she's exposed as Martha. 😉

I don't feel sorry for her at all. She may have mental illnesses but I was surprised at how lucid she was in real life. She is a nasty piece of work, trashing Richard and the actress playing her.

She nodded her head everytime she denied something and shook her head everytime she agreed to something like the lie detector (which is a pointless thing to do IMO).

She thinks she is superior to most people but on a par with Piers as she said on Facebook that her and Piers 'had done the best they could with the show'. I've worked in law and she keeps saying she's a lawyer to intimidate people but she specialised in employment law 🤣 she knows Jack tit about suing people. There is no lawyer boyfriend- she's a liar.

My sister is a narcissist and has broken our family up with her endless drama then playing the victim, so I really struggle to empathise with people like her. That could be my sister sat there claiming all sorts - all of which would be untrue. They KNOW they're lying but they do it anyway because they hate you. They have to rubbish your name, they have to beat you at a game you're not playing and don't understand.

People like her are evil and dangerous.

Anyway, I think Piers set her up, next will be the proof of her lies, he deliberately didn't prod her too much to make her angry. She really believes Piers is her friend because in her head he's as successful as she is.
 
CabalofBolorneaise said:
It’s petty and unrelated really but I am pure dying to know if she’s ever actually had an iPhone 😂
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She does there's pictures of her on social media posing with an iPhone. 🤣🤣
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evoway13 said:
Slightly offtopic but, check out Mikhila McDaid's yt channel and threads on Tattle. For the last 18 months, she's been portraying herself as having ADHD - after having no signs of it until it became 'trendy' on tiktok etc. She's been on yt 12 years - so, the difference in her behaviour over the last 18 months is extraordinary. She paid £1000 last week for a zoom meeting diagnosis......
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I was diagnosed last week , I didn't actually want the diagnosis, consultant made me do a computer test as well as sharing my entire history and spent ages trying to convince me I had it, I didn't want to be a trend lol 😂 ffs Audhd here best of both tit 🤣
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veevee04 said:
She does there's pictures of her on social media posing with an iPhone. 🤣🤣
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I was diagnosed last week , I didn't actually want the diagnosis, consultant made me do a computer test as well as sharing my entire history and spent ages trying to convince me I had it, I didn't want to be a trend lol 😂 ffs Audhd here best of both tit 🤣 I also had a face to face appointment and the doctor pent 1 hour 30 trying to convince me I have ADHD lol
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Looks like the nephew has posted a photo of someone being released from a prison except he’s covered the bit that could be her 😅 he reckons the papers have it but haven’t released it yet.

Feel like I have to add a disclaimer 🤣 that I stumbled on it by chance, checking fb in my break and it said 1 new post in the search history. I’m not stalking this guy looool Sent from my ipheon
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Ray_of_Sunshine said:
Looks like the nephew has posted a photo of someone being released from a prison except he’s covered the bit that could be her 😅 he reckons the papers have it but haven’t released it yet.

Feel like I have to add a disclaimer 🤣 that I stumbled on it by chance, checking fb in my break and it said 1 new post in the search history. I’m not stalking this guy looool Sent from my ipheon
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quick search on google with that photo…

we need to stop giving him the views 😂
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