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I guess time will tell if he is legit or not….
I think she’ll be more embarrassed to be related to this illiterate, lower class guy than harassing RG and throwing a book at someone.
 
veevee04 said:
Does anyone think this is all just big black mirror episode and they will be asking why the public were so interested in Martha who has no power mentally ill and on benefits and not the rapist who has money and power.
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People ARE interested in who the rapist is. However there is a brick wall on knowing who it actually was.

Fiona on the other hand couldn't help herself and outed herself even more with her rants on her public Facebook.
 
IfTheCapFits said:
This has been picked up on a few times now & im a little confused as it was based on a true story wasn't it? So some dramatisation expected? It wasn't a documentary so I'm not sure how much fact checking would be expected & what the legal stance is. I'd be surprised if Netflix have left themselves open for any legal claims, but who knows!
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It says "This is a true story".

Not "This is based on a true story".

Richard Gadd has said in interviews it is his "emotional truth".

Many films, such as Fargo, say it is a true story just for dramatic effect.
Many others take huge liberties with what happened.

I'd like to think Gadd has proof of all these calls and emails plus dates of when he contacted police so if this does end up going to court, the proof is there... but really none of us know what happened.
 
IfTheCapFits said:
This has been picked up on a few times now & im a little confused as it was based on a true story wasn't it? So some dramatisation expected? It wasn't a documentary so I'm not sure how much fact checking would be expected & what the legal stance is. I'd be surprised if Netflix have left themselves open for any legal claims, but who knows!
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“Based on a true story” and “this is a true story” are not quite the same. BR stated the latter whereas if merely based on a true story, you could expect there to be more dramatic licence. Like you say, it’s not a documentary so did not need to be 100% the truth. But there is a slight nuance there. I think the reason Martha went to prison in the show was for resolution purposes and to tie it up - otherwise there would be the question left of how Donny can move on with his life.

I got the impression from watching it that the canal grope was dramatised - to link to his earlier SA. I also thought the attack on Teri didn’t happen in real life either - but who’s to say. FH seemed quite adamant those things didn’t happen, whereas not an outright denial on the emails, letters etc.

I know a lot of people don’t like RG but I’m happy he’s managed to turn his pain to art; it’s a beautiful thing. It doesn’t really bother me whether he’s fame hungry or not - least he’s got what he’s always wanted and can see some good/purpose in what he went through.
 
I didn't finish the show but got the interview on now, what is her accent? It's very mixed!

Also claims she met him 2 or 3 times.
 
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I kind of feel like this whole thing is so surreal, I feel like it’s a complete set up in a way and they will turn round and say it was all a lie and part of the whole tv drama. Don’t get me wrong I know folks have had awful stalking/SA experiences and this has raised awareness and discussion which is great, but it all just seems off to me in a way. Sorry I did not articulate that well at all
 
What I’ve learned mostly from Baby Reindeer and particularly from this thread is how much more common stalking is. In my own naive bubble I’d only thought of celebrities being stalked and even then thought they had security. I hadn’t ever given it much more thought.

I am so shocked and saddened by the stories of those members on here who have experienced stalking. It just blows my mind that those terrible things have happened to you, when you are just going about your regular lives. How you live in fear even when things are ‘quiet’. I can’t imagine the stress, anxiety and fear of living your daily life and nobody doing anything or police intervening.

I hope this show has highlighted stalking to a stage where authorities, friends, family and colleagues take everything seriously from the get go to help the victims.

Much strength to thosewho have suffered this experience and are continuing to live in uncertainty and fear!
 
Libbylulu said:
What I’ve learned mostly from Baby Reindeer and particularly from this thread is how much more common stalking is. In my own naive bubble I’d only thought of celebrities being stalked and even then thought they had security. I hadn’t ever given it much more thought.

I am so shocked and saddened by the stories of those members on here who have experienced stalking. It just blows my mind that those terrible things have happened to you, when you are just going about your regular lives. How you live in fear even when things are ‘quiet’. I can’t imagine the stress, anxiety and fear of living your daily life and nobody doing anything or police intervening.

I hope this show has highlighted stalking to a stage where authorities, friends, family and colleagues take everything seriously from the get go to help the victims.

Much strength to thosewho have suffered this experience and are continuing to live in uncertainty and fear!
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I also reiterated this. I’ve just lurked in this thread but I’m open mouthed at the amount those of you on here have suffered. You’re all amazing x
 
SloaneRanger said:
I kind of feel like this whole thing is so surreal, I feel like it’s a complete set up in a way and they will turn round and say it was all a lie and part of the whole tv drama. Don’t get me wrong I know folks have had awful stalking/SA experiences and this has raised awareness and discussion which is great, but it all just seems off to me in a way. Sorry I did not articulate that well at all
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I agree. I smell a 🐀
 
doodlebug said:
“Based on a true story” and “this is a true story” are not quite the same. BR stated the latter whereas if merely based on a true story, you could expect there to be more dramatic licence. Like you say, it’s not a documentary so did not need to be 100% the truth. But there is a slight nuance there. I think the reason Martha went to prison in the show was for resolution purposes and to tie it up - otherwise there would be the question left of how Donny can move on with his life.

I got the impression from watching it that the canal grope was dramatised - to link to his earlier SA. I also thought the attack on Teri didn’t happen in real life either - but who’s to say. FH seemed quite adamant those things didn’t happen, whereas not an outright denial on the emails, letters etc.

I know a lot of people don’t like RG but I’m happy he’s managed to turn his pain to art; it’s a beautiful thing. It doesn’t really bother me whether he’s fame hungry or not - least he’s got what he’s always wanted and can see some good/purpose in what he went through.
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I think he’s obviously had negative experiences with her and she crossed lines but I do wonder if she did take it to court, because she’s so adamant she did nothing wrong, how much would come out as being true and how much it would turn out is made up. I suspect the truth of it all is somewhere firmly in the middle of both their accounts.

She’s clearly lied but also so has he when he said he’d changed enough people wouldn’t be able to find her yet people found her with direct matches within a few hours. That’s very disingenuous of him.
 
I reckon she’s done the emails, voicemails etc - simply because it would be extremely strange to give such precise numbers, Gadd knows it could be checked, and she also has admitted to sending ‘a few’ which is thousands if anything like her fb posts. But not convinced she’s violent or would’ve sexually assaulted him, at least I don’t think she’s said or done anything to give that impression. Could be wrong
 
femmegirly said:
Piers constantly asking what grade she got is infuriating and makes him look so stupid. It’s an ORDINARY degree you twit. There’s no ‘grade’.
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She didnt reply with that .She said she did alright. Why not correct him and tell him he is wrong, that she got an ordinary degree. She goes on for ages about there being a high court judge, photographic memory, she did alright, not top of the class etc but she doesnt answer the question,
 
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