Alice Evans & Ioan Gruffudd #273 ‘Stop That! I’m Not Asking You…I’m Telling You!’ The Officer Ordered

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Well here we are everyone!!
Another fresh and brand new thread with the title winner from @Ametrine with a banging quote from the Bailiff to Alice lol
As always, please keep it on tattle, please keep it on topic and please put more than ten screenshots behind a spoiler
If you’re new, please click on the wiki link, which is the pink button up top for the chronology of events and court documents
Please see the recap below if you need the highlights (and lowlights) from the last thread

Here’s a link to the previous thread
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RECAP #272

•Welcome back Tattlers as we hurtle towards thread #300 and welcome to all the newbies that have joined tattle or that are here to see our archive.

**PLEASE CLICK THE PINK BUTTON AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE FOR OUR WIKI**

•It has all the court documents including the DVRO request from Ioan that Andrea mentions in her brand new video which can be found right here. Make a cuppa or pour yourself a vino but whatever you do, don’t forget the snacks

•Andrea has done a couple of other videos on the subject so you can go back and and view those too on her channel

•A huge shout out to Butter Tart, Hiraeth and Sweetnessfollows for all the expensive court documents that Andrea refers to

•Another shoutout to all of our fabulous contributors, jokesters, thinkers, opiners and sharers

•Ok a lot to unpack already from the last thread which was a wild ride but imma try

•As soon as things were starting to settle from the previous thread the daily mail article hit and hit it did….like an out of control bullet train headed for a wreck 🥴
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.12f...photos-ex-Ioan-Gruffudd-LA-child-support.html

•Alice was definitely taken out of the courtroom twice because she couldn’t stop herself taking pictures, and I quote Neil here “at point blank range” of Ioan and Andrea

•No one knows who the subject was exactly as it was initially thought to be just Andrea but 1. You cant take photos at all in the courthouse 2. Alice can’t be within so many feet of Ioan never mind up in his grill and 3. It was likely a fit of jealousy seeing an attractive, successful woman having any exchange with Alice’s property that set her off

•Minute order #1
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20486737

•Minute order #2
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20486749

•Welp comes in again with a great breakdown of the results of the Sept 9th court date
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20487497

•This one is for the idiots, thanks Invictus
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20491713

•Ametrine does a great job calling out Alice’s hysterical comments vs Andreas measured tweets 🤣
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20490142

•Alice is still raging and fighting in the comments of her rage post on Andrea 35+ hours later

•Silence from I and B after what must have been an unsettling and unpleasant experience for Ioan. No one wants Alice near them, whether a court orders her to duck off or not

•I love that Alice was scared shitless by the bailiff and the way Andrea laughs when recollecting the wink or acknowledgment of Ioan that set Alice off makes me wish I was there for that moment alone

•A collection of other articles related to Alice getting her bloated ass kicked out of the courtroom
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20490768

•Electric bill is still outstanding but at least it’s cooling off in LA.

•As per with Alice, nothing she says is credible. One minute she’s poor, the next she’s in a driverless waymo and importing fresh fish over dried ice. One minute she makes the kids file a bogus RO, the next minute she wonders why he doesn’t call them

•Three days before her own hearing Alice was a champion of open FAMILY COURTS and even for her own hearing she was down to make sure the DM were there but the two-faced witch absolutely lost all impulse control when Andrea Burkhart entered the chat
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20495805

•I guess an educated, non tabloid, knowledgeable and experienced woman with a smart and wide reaching audience, winking at Ioan was not what Alice meant when she said she was supportive of open family courts

•I don’t know why WATCHES seem to cause so much controversy on these threads the last 4-5 month but ITS NOT A bleeping ROLEX it’s an Olivia Burton but also Alice has pawned her watches because she’s in abject poverty while simultaneously playing with her Apple, Serpenti unknown watch in court.
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20495733
•Brie, we are delighted for you. Make no mistake, we would love to see Alice arrested for her crimes but, and I’ll take the risk of speaking on everyone’s behalf here, nothing could make us happier than your fantastic result.

•Mavis, not sure where your mum is on her transition but we hope you’re finding moments to smile when you come here for an escape

•I think that rounds up this recap for now. Oh yeah, as someone who was quite neutral as to Ioan’s looks (Ioan-Daddy anyone?), that man was a bleeping smoke show yesterday. Like, duck.

•Oh tit. The results of our poll which is still open as the thread went faster than the poll deadline: 2-4 months until she moves house winning with 60 votes or 20%

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Ioan is a better person than me. At this point, I'd spend what was left of the money pursuing every DVRO breech and hauling her ass to court as often as possible. The court would have to do something with her eventually. I'd like to see pap shots in the DM of Alice doing community service, like picking up trash on the hwy. Or, Alice paying her probation officer every month. Even better, 30 days in jail. She's already earned it.
 
Well here we are everyone!!
Another fresh and brand new thread with the title winner from @Ametrine with a banging quote from the Bailiff to Alice lol
As always, please keep it on tattle, please keep it on topic and please put more than ten screenshots behind a spoiler
If you’re new, please click on the wiki link, which is the pink button up top for the chronology of events and court documents
Please see the recap below if you need the highlights (and lowlights) from the last thread

Here’s a link to the previous thread
---
RECAP #272

•Welcome back Tattlers as we hurtle towards thread #300 and welcome to all the newbies that have joined tattle or that are here to see our archive.

**PLEASE CLICK THE PINK BUTTON AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE FOR OUR WIKI**

•It has all the court documents including the DVRO request from Ioan that Andrea mentions in her brand new video which can be found right here. Make a cuppa or pour yourself a vino but whatever you do, don’t forget the snacks

•Andrea has done a couple of other videos on the subject so you can go back and and view those too on her channel

•A huge shout out to Butter Tart, Hiraeth and Sweetnessfollows for all the expensive court documents that Andrea refers to

•Another shoutout to all of our fabulous contributors, jokesters, thinkers, opiners and sharers

•Ok a lot to unpack already from the last thread which was a wild ride but imma try

•As soon as things were starting to settle from the previous thread the daily mail article hit and hit it did….like an out of control bullet train headed for a wreck 🥴
https://www.12ft.io/https://www.12f...photos-ex-Ioan-Gruffudd-LA-child-support.html

•Alice was definitely taken out of the courtroom twice because she couldn’t stop herself taking pictures, and I quote Neil here “at point blank range” of Ioan and Andrea

•No one knows who the subject was exactly as it was initially thought to be just Andrea but 1. You cant take photos at all in the courthouse 2. Alice can’t be within so many feet of Ioan never mind up in his grill and 3. It was likely a fit of jealousy seeing an attractive, successful woman having any exchange with Alice’s property that set her off

•Minute order #1
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20486737

•Minute order #2
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20486749

•Welp comes in again with a great breakdown of the results of the Sept 9th court date
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20487497

•This one is for the idiots, thanks Invictus
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20491713

•Ametrine does a great job calling out Alice’s hysterical comments vs Andreas measured tweets 🤣
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20490142

•Alice is still raging and fighting in the comments of her rage post on Andrea 35+ hours later

•Silence from I and B after what must have been an unsettling and unpleasant experience for Ioan. No one wants Alice near them, whether a court orders her to duck off or not

•I love that Alice was scared shitless by the bailiff and the way Andrea laughs when recollecting the wink or acknowledgment of Ioan that set Alice off makes me wish I was there for that moment alone

•A collection of other articles related to Alice getting her bloated ass kicked out of the courtroom
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20490768

•Electric bill is still outstanding but at least it’s cooling off in LA.

•As per with Alice, nothing she says is credible. One minute she’s poor, the next she’s in a driverless waymo and importing fresh fish over dried ice. One minute she makes the kids file a bogus RO, the next minute she wonders why he doesn’t call them

•Three days before her own hearing Alice was a champion of open FAMILY COURTS and even for her own hearing she was down to make sure the DM were there but the two-faced witch absolutely lost all impulse control when Andrea Burkhart entered the chat
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20495805

•I guess an educated, non tabloid, knowledgeable and experienced woman with a smart and wide reaching audience, winking at Ioan was not what Alice meant when she said she was supportive of open family courts

•I don’t know why WATCHES seem to cause so much controversy on these threads the last 4-5 month but ITS NOT A bleeping ROLEX it’s an Olivia Burton but also Alice has pawned her watches because she’s in abject poverty while simultaneously playing with her Apple, Serpenti unknown watch in court.
https://tattle.life/threads/alice-e...-with-alice-in-open-court.46766/post-20495733
•Brie, we are delighted for you. Make no mistake, we would love to see Alice arrested for her crimes but, and I’ll take the risk of speaking on everyone’s behalf here, nothing could make us happier than your fantastic result.

•Mavis, not sure where your mum is on her transition but we hope you’re finding moments to smile when you come here for an escape

•I think that rounds up this recap for now. Oh yeah, as someone who was quite neutral as to Ioan’s looks (Ioan-Daddy anyone?), that man was a bleeping smoke show yesterday. Like, duck.

•Oh tit. The results of our poll which is still open as the thread went faster than the poll deadline: 2-4 months until she moves house winning with 60 votes or 20%

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This recap is a masterpiece. Thank you, @Old Soak! 💜
 
Ioan is a better person than me. At this point, I'd spend what was left of the money pursuing every DVRO breech and hauling her ass to court as often as possible. The court would have to do something with her eventually. I'd like to see pap shots in the DM of Alice doing community service, like picking up trash on the hwy. Or, Alice paying her probation officer every month. Even better, 30 days in jail. She's already earned it.
And drug and alcohol tests
 
Ioan looks incredible in that pic of him walking to court. He has definitely gotten healthier since leaving his abuser and since finding a supportive type of love.

Alice, since you're lurking, I hope it drives you crazy that you had to demand an ultimatum for Ioan to propose to you. And that your Big Bird ass had to go sulk and flounce when Ioan was trying to propose. Meanwhile he couldn't wait to propose to Bianca on his own accord. I also know it kills you that he didn't go through some ho phase after the divorce that you could gossip about for the rest of your life. Nope, just one love full of positive vibes not only together but supported by peeps in Hollywood as well. 🥰
 
Andrea’s video was interesting and I’ve been watching her stuff since Jonny and Amber. It was mentioned last thread by someone that they felt uncomfortable with her being there and I did sort of agree. Watching the video, which was very interesting, it’s given us a real observation of Alice in the wild. I wonder if live tweeting was a good idea. Feels a bit click baity, a bit “pick me” as she inserts herself into the story. I’m glad she was there so we all got the scoop that we wouldn’t have otherwise had, but on the other hand it’s blown it up again which I’m sure Ioan wouldn’t want and Alice definitely didn’t want. I’m not explaining it well but I’m a little conflicted.

It’s interesting that she said Alice was there with her phone turned sideways to try and get a photo on her phone after being told not to. That’s something you do when you see someone famous on the train, not in court 🤣 such a puerile move.

Alice has used Andrea’s presence to deflect from the losses in court so it was handy she turned up. She’s now found a smoking gun (so she thinks, complete nonsense of course) and is going to carry on railing about this for some while to deflect from her own bad behaviour and the fact she’s got duck all now.
 
Can I just say you’re all amazing - funny, insightful and creative. Those bags had me dead 💀 btw. @Old Soak your recaps are outstanding - any newbies, please go back to the many previous threads to read them, in order to truly grasp the madness Alice creates.

I too wish that JJ had thrown more at her - she definitely should have had more than a bailiff warning for the photos. But I guess February will be the real test - especially if Alice is still kicking off (spoiler - of bleeping course she will be) and hasn’t found work.

She has to come to terms with the fact that conventions etc won’t cut the mustard - she’s not in any kind of demand for the cons because she’s just not famous enough or a good person to have there due to her previous histrionics. The shows she “starred” in don’t have the same cult appeal as others, and fans of them want to see the younger, more established actors. Not some bloated, washed up never-has-been grinning like a bleeping clown in photos and who’s only claim to fame is now being an absolute lunatic towards her ex. Any previous work she’s done is now 100% overshadowed by her disgusting behaviour.

Her Stans are smooth-brained idiots, who for some reason just refuse to see the light when it comes to their heroine AE. Seriously, if you don’t think that the way Alice has acted throughout this divorce is bleeping crazy then…well, you’ve got to be unhinged too. They will never understand/accept the narrative that Alice is the bad guy in all this. Which is a scary in itself.

Also, Alice grief-thieving and making Instagram posts all about herself - even in the context of parents who have lost children - is peak narc behaviour. It makes me feel physically sick reading her dripping on about her shitshow (which SHE created) when there’s parents out there going through real trauma. But then, what else do we expect from our dear Alice?

Pathetic, desperate bleep who will end up alone in old age. Even if the girls don’t ever repair their relationship with Ioan, they WILL see the light when it comes to their mother one day. When she interferes with their relationships/friendships/jobs/absolutely everything then they will get pissed off at her and duck her off regardless. Here’s hoping anyway, because that’s the only thing the piece of tit deserves at the end of the day.
 
The ring on his finger in those photos, he’s in costume. Suspect the ring is also costume. 😊

Mr Flamingo suspects that Ioan plays the grizzly leader of the team who has to rescue said young people from the zip line. Whether he gets eaten by a shark remains to be seen of course. 🤣

Whoever used the term loan Shark, please keep that for future thread title when the move is released 🤣
 
I like this users comment because it's one of the rare ones that does wish the kids the best and that isnt victim blaming him but I disagree with this. It's obvious that Alice hasnt changed and still sabotages their relationship which is why he walked away from this now.

This relationship isnt salvagable until they no longer are under her influence and realize what they and Alice did to him (because even if they are adults they'll continue to be a threat to him judging by how he was treated at most visitations, it's also not like your narc mom stops conspiring with you just because you turn 18). Unfortunately if they ever do realize how much the person that claimed is all they have lied to them, ruined and really stole their life with their father I find it hard to believe that they would sustain a relationship to their mother (note: I am hoping they do manage to love both parents) and it wouldn't even guarantee that they'll get the father back either (most alienated kids that realize what happened later in life feel too much shame to approach and also still blame the parent for not fighting harder, often the father also doesnt want any contact anymore because the trust is fully broken and he cant handle more hurt, I do think Ioan would be different though)

It's unfortunately the reality that so long they are not adults at least Alice has created a scenario where it's impossible to have a relationship with both parents. And unfortunately it's far more likely that they will have no relationship to either of them than both later in life (at least the eldest, I have hopes for the younger one)

the only scenario where I can remotely imagine a relationship to both parents anytime soon (since I cant see Alice changing) is if he and Bianca break up, since the most extreme stuff that happened in visitation was aimed to break them up and to also never build a relationship to her. But Alice was sabotaging pre-Bianca already (although it was partly in attempt to simply win him back, she claims its no longer the case but I reckon she just says it since he is not available), so it would likely be in vain and simply not worth it to break up a relationship with someone like her (few women would have stood by him through this saga) just for the 0.1 % chance of having a relationship with your still brainwashed kids and contact to your abuser.
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Interesting she did such a turnaround and now wants Ioan seeing the kids after wrecking every therapy session he had with them.

My fear is that JJ will try to pressure Ioan into visitation and since all visitation has to be supervised because of the staged dramas and fake accusations Alice cooks up it it’s just not a pleasant or healthy experience for anyone. Sure kids have a right to a relationship with their dad but if it’s made toxic and used a weapon by their crazy mother what good ia that to anyone?

The kids have enough to deal with, their lives are miserable and lonely and they don’t have anyone to help them through this, Alice cut off anyone that could have supported them, therapists included and she even pulls them from school when it suits her. It’s too dangerous to risk putting more of her madness on them. I hope Ioan stands his ground on this one - for their sake.
 
Interesting she did such a turnaround and now wants Ioan seeing the kids after wrecking every therapy session he had with them.

My fear is that JJ will try to pressure Ioan into visitation and since all visitation has to be supervised because of the staged dramas and fake accusations Alice cooks up it it’s just not a pleasant or healthy experience for anyone. Sure kids have a right to a relationship with their dad but if it’s made toxic and used a weapon by their crazy mother what good ia that to anyone?

The kids have enough to deal with, their lives are miserable and lonely and they don’t have anyone to help them through this, Alice cut off anyone that could have supported them, therapists included and she even pulls them from school when it suits her. It’s too dangerous to risk putting more of her madness on them. I hope Ioan stands his ground on this one - for their sake.
Custody has been agreed though, so I think that discussion isn’t likely to happen? Not a legal bod here so I could be very wrong!
 
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